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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (28 children)

That the only way you can come to the conclusion that Mao "killed more" is if you're deliberately downplaying how many Hitler killed, aka Holocaust denial.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (27 children)

I may have missed the lesson where numbers aren't allowed to be bigger than other numbers, so let me rephrase this in a way you might be able to understand. The most conservative estimate of famine deaths during the Great Leap Forward (backward) is greater than the ENTIRE European Jewish population in 1933 by at least six million.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (15 children)

Famines were extremely common before the CPC came to power. Most Chinese people lived in extreme poverty, and life expectancy was less than 35, with no significant improvement under the KMT. In between Mao coming to power and his death, life expectancy in China nearly doubled. Today, average life expectancy in China has exceeded that of the US, a feat that would've been unimaginable back then.

It's true that Mao made misteps (which the CPC readily admits), but those specific, dramatic events have been disproportionately elevated to obscure the more general trend, which has been drastic improvements in the lives of the people of China.

Of course, in addition to minimizing the frequency and severity of famines in pre-industrial China, your history books likely did not place the same level of blame on the British for the intentional famines which Ireland and India were subjected to, in which Britain did not only refuse to provide aid to their colonial subjects (often on the express basis that it would motivate people to work harder), but also did not cease their plundering - in both cases, food was exported out of the country while the people starved.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

What about what about what about

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You have people taking time to give context and explain things to you and this is your reaction? Lmao dickweed get a load of PIGPOOPBALLS

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

LMAO my entry level wumao troll, you think I am actually seeing your links links as images, go outside 🤣

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

You're right, what does it matter that every Chinese person gets to live twice as long as they used to, if the process of getting there wasn't perfect?

Your carefully researched and insightful rebuttal has convinced me. I hate massive increases in life expectancy now. Clearly, we have no choice but to abandon communism no-choice

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

It's not whataboutism when you bring up Hitler, though, of course

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's the matter? Suddenly not so keen to compare death counts now that your Holocaust denial has been exposed?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm amazed you haven't passed out yet from oxygen deprivation

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You, two posts up:

What about what about what about

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

idk man the only person I see going what about is you

EDIT: OHHHH you're a fascist. hog out or log out.

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