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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (20 children)

Fuck, china is so brutal to just arrest people simply on the suspicion of illegally providing state secrets to foreign countries! What kind of country does that? 915 days now!

... and the missing sunshine part really makes me wonder what those Uyghurs were missing during their time of imprisonment...

  • Edham Mamet: 2827 days
  • Arkin Mahmud: 2793 days
  • Ahmad Tourson: 2824 days
  • Abdul Razak: 3586 days
  • Hassan Anvar: 2818 days
  • Ahmed Adil: 1547 days
  • Yusef Abbas: 4204 days
  • Akhdar Qasem Basit: 1425 days
  • Bahtiyar Mahnut: 2791 days
  • Abdul Helil Mamut: 2558 days
  • Haji Mohammed: 1425 days
  • Saidullah Khalik: (data missing)
  • Abdul Ghappar: 2679 days
  • Hajiakbar Abdulghupur: (data missing)
  • Abu Bakr Qasim: 1425 days
  • Abdullah Abdulqadirakhun: 2558 days
  • Dawut Abdurehim: 2677 days
  • Adel Abdulhehim: 1425 days
  • Emam Abdulahat: 2558 days
  • Hozaifa Parhat: 2604 days
  • Hammad Memet: 3586 days
  • Adel Noori: 2706 days
[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (14 children)

I’ve been seeing this sort of thing in a few threads now since the federation and im a bit confused by it. Showing that China is doing similar things to the US doesn’t seem like a strong argument if the thing the US is doing (in this case indefinite detention without trial in a horrible prison) is bad. Is the idea that post-federation there’s users who don’t view the US as doing bad things?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

A bigger question is whether or not this is necessary to be a super power. There has never been a super power that did not do this. We can argue good or bad till we are blue in the face, but if it's a necessity, then it's going to happen. Even if the necessity is just to become a global dominant power.

An easier example to understand is selling military equipment that will absolutely be used in genocides. You can't be a super power if you don't sell advanced military equipment. Inevitably, some of those you sell to will be using it to murder journalists for reporting about the line.

So, yeah selling them those weapons is bad. But if you don't do it, someone else will. That someone else will gain inordinate amounts of power making sure your country will never be in power. So we sell, we sell it as we watch Palestinians burn.

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