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Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

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[–] [email protected] 161 points 10 months ago (278 children)

Russia invades a neighbour who dares to attempt to have stronger ties to the west.

West supplies neighbour with weapons to defend itself.

Tankies on Lemmy: "oh no, Russia is being oppressed"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Russia invades a neighbour who dares to attempt to have stronger ties to the west.

You mean a western led coup with assistance from neo nazis to remove the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014. With the explicit goal of "Latin Americanising" Eastern Europe and privatizing and selling off all their assets. The Ukrainian government still has a website up today for selling off anything not bolted down to the highest bidder. Shock doctrine 2.0.

West supplies neighbour with weapons to defend itself.

You mean forcing Ukraine to start a counter offensive using NATO combined arms tactics for witch Ukraine had neither the equipment or required training to execute. And with no will from the west to give Ukraine the required equipment (F-16 saga anyone?). How do you do a combined arms offensive without a fully functional air force? The worst part being that the west knew this, and still forced Ukraine to go ahead with the offensive anyways, knowing there was little chance of success.

Tankies on Lemmy: "oh no, Russia is being oppressed"

More like people saw this coming and think the loss of life over this attrition war is tragic. How does Ukraine win an attrition war against Russia? What is the exit plan? This is just Afganistan all over again in some ways.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The west forced Ukraine to defend itself?

Were they supposed to welcome the Russians with open arms?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I believe they mean by continuously sabotaging peace accords and talks

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Yeah exactly. What has Ukraine accomplished since the sabotaged peace talks by Boris Johnson? Is the territory gained vs Russia since then worth all the life lost, the economic cost, etc.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

They were supposed to not ethnically cleanse Russian speaking people in the eastern provences for 8 years, repeatedly breaking treaties and making threats about hosting nuclear weapons for NATO.

And the US was supposed to not support a violent coup to overthrow the democratically elected government and replace it with a one aligned with the fascist militias they used in that coup.

If this had happened to a weastern ally we would be at war to liberate the entire country let alone protect the regions facing immediate violence.

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