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[โ€“] [email protected] 114 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (108 children)
  • college tuition
  • housing
  • credit scores
  • for-profit healthcare
  • right to work legislation
  • rugged individualism/grind culture
  • voting (vote for the lesser of two evils...only two choices that are actually allies when the press isn't around to help them pretend to disagree on social issues)
  • taxes (I have no problem with taxation if democracy actually existed and our tax funds weren't being funnelled directly to the military industrial complex and corporate handouts without anyone having a say in the matter)
  • democracy (what the United States and British are trying to pass off as democracy is a complete sham)
  • sports (the distraction of the masses, anti-intellectualism incarnate)
[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (8 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They're basically responsible for 90% of males simply refusing to discuss important issues in politics. They're a distraction and are subject to massive corruption. Did you know that the MLB is actually a state-sanctioned monopoly?

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Au contrarie; sports are a fantastic way to get socioeconomic issues (like labor rights) front and center on the minds of people who wouldn't necessarily be thinking of them the same way. And they create opportunities for people to educate themselves in other areas as well. Not every sports fan is the willfully ignorant meathead you describe, nor do willfully ignorant meatheads exist because of sports.

MLB is not only a state sponsored monopoly, but like every other American sports league a blatant cartel which is constantly squabbling with its own employees over revenue shares (at the expense of the on-field product) and lying about how much money they actually make. Same thing as most other business owners, but people are a lot more willing to listen to the perspective of, say, Shoehi Ohtani than a random McDonald's employee. I can tell you that I am personally much more clued in on these sorts of societal problems as a result of sportswriters discussing labor issues, on top of being far more statistically savvy and generally more sceptical of oversimplified narratives than I would be if I had never gained an interest in baseball. Nor would I have anywhere near my current understanding of global politics without global football (soccer) creating both a mechanism and incentive for learning about them.

But that's not even the point: sports are not a "scam". Sports exist first and foremost because for many people, watching elite athletes play a game is fun. That is the intrinsic value of professional sports, and nothing about that is inherently scammy. Full stop.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Well said. You articulated what I was thinking much better than I did.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I upvoted you even though I disagree. Well said!

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sports is a very broad term. I am aware of MLBs antitrust exemption. However, that is a unique situation that does not apply across all sports. That's why we have seperte leagues like the NFL and XFL. My kids playing little leugue are not affected by this at all.

As for the 90% of males comment, this is rediculous. It is very possible to both follow and discuss politics while also have other interests. It's not an either or situation. There is nothing wrong with having distractions you enjoy.

I agree that pro sports are subject to massive corruption. But that doesn't make them a scam.

[โ€“] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago

In the US, discussion of politics is a complete faux pas because of sports.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

They're basically responsible for 90% of males simply refusing to discuss important issues in politics.

Gonna need you to cite some sources on that one.

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