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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Ukraine did sign a peace deal with Russia at the beginning of this mess, and then immediately backed out when the West yanked Zelensky's leash.

It's very telling that the terms that Russia imposed on this deal were:

  1. Neutrality

  2. Stop bombing East Ukraine

  3. Accept that East Ukrainians can speak and learn Russian if they wish to.

  4. Remove Nazis from positions of power and the military.

Russia did not start a war of conquest in Ukraine. That's just the Western narrative to maintain popular support for a proxy war with a nuclear power.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

Sure, the evil west forced them to rape and pillage and torture and bomb civilians and kidnap children and take over land that is not theirs. It's not conquest, it's just taking land that's not theirs! It's fine because the west made them do it! /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Do you have any proof for those accusations, or are you just assuming they are true because it's convenient to believe so?

Because we know what the West has done. It's all recorded. Lindsay Graham going to Azov Battalion fighters and telling them "this is the year of offence". Boris Johnson telling Zelensky to abandon peace talks or "the West won't protect him". Adam Shiff standing in Congress and saying "we need to fight Russia over there, so we don't have to fight them over here". Angela Merkel admitting that the Minsk Accords were simply a ploy for time to arm Ukraine to fight Russia. NATO insisting on inviting Ukraine in and stationing nuclear-capable missiles less than 1000 km from Moscow. A coup in Kiev organized by Americans, as admitted by several Ukrainians who took part in it. And 14000 dead Ukrainians after 8 years of continuous shelling by Nazis, specifically targeting civilians. But of course those dead weren't killed by Russian forces, so it's easy to ignore them.

Any more double standards you want me to break down for you, you fucking hypocrite armchair warmonger?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What a weird rambling. Do you really believe this? That is one weird-ass list of made-up bullshit and obvious misquotes.

I almost hope that you get payed for this, because if you’re really gullible enough to actually believe these lies, oh my…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If it's made up, prove me wrong.

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