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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (24 children)

Any idea what prompted this about face?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Pessimistic: Apple lawyers have arguments prepared that DRM'ing individual components does not violate this law.

Less Pessimistic: Apple got a sufficient head start in supporting third-party repairs that it would be beneficial for them to get this law passed so that other manufacturers scramble to catch up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not DRM, but Apple does signing of components.

Apple doesn’t care because they already set their self repair program up exactly the way this legislation states. If you buy certain components you have to contact them for assistance activating them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Which is the type of repair bill I don't want. I would like to just source a donor phone and transplant parts to make it work again, aka reducing wastes. (and protecting my bank acc)

However, with a big player like Apple support this defective bill, it got a high chance to pass and set the standard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I get why they do some of it in the security components, really wish they just gave the user the option to trust after a big warning banner. Yes, someone could have hacked this faceid camera, but since I’m the one putting it in and not some badguy please just associate it with this device now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I agree. Security components, fine. Just let me skip over that.

However, what on earth they need to serialize the monitor and battery?!?! Calibration? How come I don't need calibration for my PC monitor nor my camera batteries? Does it work to its fullest? No. Does it work. Yes. That all I want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Sir/Madam, your iphone has been selected for a completely random verification by the customs agent, please provide and we will return it in 1 - 2 hrs. Thaaaannk you for your cooperation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not DRM

Apple doesn’t care [...]. If you buy certain components you have to contact them for assistance activating them.

You are contradicting yourself

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, I’m actually not. Digital Rights Management has a specific meaning. Apple pairs devices to each other cryptographically, but it has nothing to do with managing rights. You have to contact them to assist you in pairing the devices to avoid warnings, just like a repair center does, but you are not actually activating them with Apple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah, you are right. Sorry, I'm just too much used to calling DRM as Digital Restrictions Management.

You have to contact them to assist you in pairing the devices to avoid warnings, just like a repair center does, but you are not actually activating them with Apple.

Do you mean that the devices actually boot with the replacement parts, but they also show a warning about them? If so, did this change recently (as in, last few years), or was it always that way since digitally signed parts became a thing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I don’t know if every replacement part is still bootable, but for some things it will boot up and warn you and disable some features like faceid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good points. It may also be that someone else is already out in front of this, and Apple is trying to catch up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They aren’t.

This: https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair

Is exactly what the legislation asks for. I’m sure that is no coincidence.

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