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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Good. However way you feel about piracy or Bethesda. This is stealing directly from artists and we need to protect artists and their right to make money. Which in turn is their right to live, because we live in a capitalistic society. Denying someone pay is denying them shelter, food, heat, everything. I can only hope that subsequent cases like this for smaller artists are treated similarly as important. I know that's a tall ask though. That the indie games studio losing money to bootleggers isn't going to get the same response from the Sheriff's Office.

This is at least a step in the right direction as cases like this are usually hand waved away as "well those people weren't going to buy the game anyways." or "It's just copying a file." or best of all "No real damages have been done."

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

This is stealing directly from artists

This is factually untrue. Artists have already been paid for their work and have possibly already been let go. (in many big gaming companies majority of the dev teams are let go on release, they operate on a hire-and-fire cycle) Artists pretty much never have a stake in the company or profit sharing. So there's no real way the # of copies sold has any bearing on their income.

At worst this is Bethesda having 150 copies stolen. Not even tiny devs would blink at that as they get copies stolen through places like G2A constantly. A huge company like Bethesda is worried more about early copies breaking embargo date that shows bad or buggy gameplay, negatively harming sales. Which, TBH, I am 100% not sympathetic towards. Review embargos any more restrictive than a week prior to launch is just trying to hide something.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What’s your source on this? Even if Bethesda had any idle hands during the development of Starfield, it already has another huge project coming down the pike in Elder Scrolls 6. Why would it fire off developers who are already familiar with the revised engine that it needs to make another massive open world game?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I've worked in the games industry for 10 years, this has been a rumor about release layoffs. It doesn't happen if the studio can prevent it. You typically don't lay off a huge team if you can avoid it, even if the game did terribly. A terrible game is a learning opportunity and if you just lay everyone off then everything they learned during that game is lost knowledge. You'll never make a profitable studio filled with experts in their craft if you lay people off after every release. Even small studios have another project going so when they near release they don't have idle hands.

So, this rumor comes from a couple of places. 1) At the release of a project a lot of people will quit. This is usually because they are fed up with the studio or the studio's next project doesn't interest them. 2) Smaller studios during the indie boom assumed that they'd get paid on release. This has changed but before, the release was an unpaid publisher milestone. Some indie studios assumed this to mean they'd get profits on release which also isn't the case because the publisher typically takes 80% to 100% (usually 100% if you are small) of the profits until they recoup all the money they spent during development. So the studio goes unpaid for 1-6 months or longer. They then are forced to lay off their team because they can't pay them even if the game does well. There are delays in payments from Storefronts, Publishers, etc. when it comes to these things, and when smaller studios forget that, they lose people. So sometimes now, people write into the publisher contract that release is a paid milestone or they go for DLC milestones or they start another project nearing release and hope to get it funded and move the team over.

Overall, no large studio lays off a whole team on the verge of release if they can avoid it. It doesn't make sense and it's a myth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They've got a FO4 next gen patch due at some point two that some of them are probably working on.

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