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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (12 children)

You sorta have to win the war to declare independence.

So mainland China is not independent then?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (11 children)

They have the mainland and everyone recognizes them as China.

Sounds independent to me. Forget your pedantic nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Sounds independent to me. Forget your pedantic nonsense.

As does Taiwan to me, and right back at you comrade.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

So the “nation” that doesn’t even consider itself independent sounds independent to you?

And I’m the one being pedantic?

Sorry to say but independence isn’t a vibe.

It’s not a vibe based analysis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So the “nation” that doesn’t even consider itself independent sounds independent to you?

They cannot claim themselves independent or else China would attack. Don't you think it's kind of ludicrous that a country can force another "region" to not be independent by threatening them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

What are your opinions on the civil war in the US?

Should the confederacy have been allowed to leave without threat of force?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I don't really care about the history of the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that doesn’t even consider itself independent

How does it not consider itself independent?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Article 4 of the constitution:

The territory of the Republic of China according to its existing national boundaries shall not be altered except by resolution of the National Assembly.

Which means they're not independent of the rest of China. They also claim parts of Japan, Korea, Myanmar, Bhutan, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Russia, and according to Vietnam parts of Vietnam. Their territorial claims aren't ancient by the way, they were revised in 2002, when they accepted Mongolia's sovereignty.

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