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New phone sparks worry China has found a way around U.S. tech limits (www.washingtonpost.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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As Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo was visiting China earlier this week, a sea-green Chinese smartphone was quietly launched online.

It was no normal gadget. And its launch has sparked hushed concern in Washington that U.S. sanctions have failed to prevent China from making a key technological advance. Such a development would seem to fulfill warnings from U.S. chipmakers that sanctions wouldn’t stop China, but would spur it to redouble efforts to build alternatives to U.S. technology.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Why? I'm not super educated on this matter and can't find anything clear on why this would be bad

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Because it’s a sign they were able to get that manufacturing technology working. It means their equipment is better than it was up until very recently, and they were able to work out the kinks (mainly optics, iirc) stopping them from using ‘7nm’ nodes. It also means that the west is loosing the semiconductor production advantage it has.

Check out Asianometry, he does good videos on semiconductor manufacture, and I believe he did a video or two on China as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

oh no china make good tech? why is it worrying for me?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I have literally zero more information lol I'm in the US and feel like I should be concerned because "China" but I'd love a valid reason beyond "they're now capable of sustaining they're own technology".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They already were, but how they can use this dangerous advance semiconductor manufacturing to get a couple more fps on among us

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's more of a weapon system and AI-model issue. Think of Russians using missiles filled with Chinese-manufacturered electronics rather than US ones. Now US sanctions are less effective (even in the face of all the smuggling that happens anyway).

In the same way, think of China training militarily useful AI models on hardware they no longer need the US to supply. Things like models for more effectively deadly biological or chemical compounds. Or even targeting and decision making algorithms. In a war, they would be able make their own hardware to support such efforts, rather than being reliant on the US.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter in times of peace, or if we were all able to get along with each other. But seeing as everyone is trying to have an advantage on all other potential enemies, this presents a problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

You realize they've been doing chip making way longer then we have

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