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[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (19 children)

Two people of equal drunkness can do whatever they want because there's no power imbalance*.

But someone who's a single drink in shouldn't have sex with someone who's absolutely hammered, and someone who's absolutely hammered shouldn't force themselves on someone who's blackout drunk (because that's literally rape)

Edit:

*Obviously, all other rules that would apply to non-drunk people also apply. I'm not saying they can like, murder each other or anything.

[โ€“] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So since I don't drink I can't hookup with drunk girls? Sounds like BS to me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So since I don't drink I can't hookup with drunk girls?

Exactly, you can't. That would be rape.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What the heck you are delusional

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

No.

Being able to consent means being able to both understand what you're consenting to and being able to communicate that you consent to it.

A drunk person can't understand what they're consenting to and, after certain levels of drunkenness, can't communicate their consent either. Therefore they can't consent. You, being sober, should know this and therefore shouldn't take advantage of them. If you do take advantage of them, then that makes you a rapist.

As the other commenter pointed out, I hope the women around you know you're not a safe person to be around.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm very thoughtful and delicate regarding consent and am not going to let some asshat tell me that I'm "not safe to be around".

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm very thoughtful and delicate regarding consent

Given what you've said so far I'm gonna call bullshit on that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I see, almighty, all knowing, the plot continues. Well whatever, I think I'm going to continue "raping" people then.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Did you ever think about the fact my initial comment might have been fictitious?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You do realize that there are different levels of drunkenness right? So a person who drank one beer can not consent anymore, is that what you are telling me?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You do realize that there are different levels of drunkenness right

Literally re-read what I said.

So a person who drank one beer can not consent anymore, is that what you are telling me?

If the person can't handle the beer then it cannot consent. If you're sober and they're drunk then you are raping them.

There's 2 questions that must be asked in these situation

  1. did she consent to it before being drunk?

  2. is she capable of still understanding what's going on and guve/remove consent?

If the answer to any one of these is "no", "wellll", "idk", "I think/guess so", or anything other than a very clear yes then she can't consent. And when in doubt, assume the answer is no.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So since I don't drink I can't hookup with drunk girls?

No. Also I hope the women you know are aware that you are not a safe person to be around.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Interesting that you know me so well from one comment. Share your wisdom Internet Wizard :)) How did you become all-knowing?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How did you become all-knowing?

Probably from reading the part in your comment which says:

So since I don't drink I can't hookup with drunk girls? Sounds like BS to me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

So you really are all-knowing, Internet Warrior? Show me the powerful way to becoming a keyboard ninja then, please!

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