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Not a good look for Mastodon - what can be done to automate the removal of CSAM?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (94 children)

https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:vb515nd6874/20230724-fediverse-csam-report.pdf

I'd suggest that anyone who cares about the issue take the time to read the actual report, not just drama-oriented news articles about it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (74 children)

4.1 Illustrated and Computer-Generated CSAM

Stopped reading.

Child abuse laws "exclude anime" for the same reason animal cruelty laws "exclude lettuce." Drawings are not children.

Drawings are not real.

Half the goddamn point of saying CSAM instead of CP is to make clear that Bart Simpson doesn't count. Bart Simpson is not real. It is fundamentally impossible to violate Bart Simpson's rights, because he doesn't fucking exist. There is nothing to protect him from. He cannot be harmed. He is imaginary.

This cannot be a controversial statement. Anyone who can't distinguish fiction from real life has brain problems.

You can't rape someone in MS Paint. Songs about murder don't leave a body. If you write about robbing Fort Knox, the gold is still there. We're not about to arrest Mads Mikkelsen for eating people. It did not happen. It was not real.

If you still want to get mad at people for jerking off to the wrong fantasies, that is an entirely different problem from photographs of child rape.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, what you describe is definitely illegal here in Canada. CSAM includes depictions here. Child sex dolls are illegal. And it should be that way because that stuff is disgusting.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

CSAM includes depictions here.

Literally impossible.

Child rape cannot include drawings. You can't sexually assault a fictional character. Not "you musn't." You can't.

If you think the problem with child rape amounts to 'ew, gross,' fuck you. Your moral scale is broken, if there's not a vast gulf between those two bad things.

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