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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In the end all that matters is does Nigeria want to fight this war or not. They're the ones that'll be paying for it in blood and treasure. France is a sidenote. They're not going to die over this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

France about to do a colonialism again

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

So far a leader of a military group, which has just overthrown a democratic elected leader, which cooperates with the Wagner group to secure their might, claims that France is doing that.

I would put a big question mark behind that claim and wait for reliable sources.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Democratically elected my ass. The popular support for the coup, however misguided it is, seems overwhelming among the locals

We the french have no right to force a democracy upon them. Doesn't matter how stupid we think this is

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Russian propaganda did a good job there. I lough if they think Russia will solve their problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

They haven't overthrown any democratic elected leader, the only person they've overthrown was Bazoum.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

France about to depose a military coup? Recall this is the junta that deposed Niger's president that is claiming France is going to invade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Honestly I wouldn't be able to tell which side is the good one here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the end goal of either side isnt the redistribution of the countries wealth, increasing health, education and housing programs then they can both get fucked

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Yeah, fully admit all I really know is that the deposed president was democratically elected, that the military junta was not, that Russia is suspected of BS, and that the migrant issue is potentially involved.

The first one is the important one to me, that its a Ecowas sanctioned military dictatorship making the claim that Ecowas is going to invade with France's help.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The thing is europe and the west in general is bleeding africa of it's ressources and even though it topples a democraticly elected president the goal they claim is to free themselves of postcolonialism wich could be very good for africa. But yeah always hard to know woch side tells the truth...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'd love to see an escape from the colonized paradigm, but I believe the junta is also aligned with extractor states, no?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

I'm french and mostly live in a cave so I have no idea. I only know the basics of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

I'm french and mostly live in a cave so I have no idea. I only know the basics of the problem.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

As a French I don't know either, especially looking at our history

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Siding with the democratically elected leader is generally a good choice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Not so simple when everyone in the country instantly started chanting that the coup liberated them from french influence and protesting at our embassies

Awaiting proper stats but just asking people in the streets what they think about it all tells a different story about the previous regime

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because there's never one?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

wonder why the downvote, we sure would like to thing that there's a bad and a good one, much easier, but most nation are acting for their own profit first, not by pure heart

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Niger's junta knows this how?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Russians were feeding them intelligence

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're getting downvoted, but the Wagner Group has a stake in this coup being successful and the group has ties to the Russian government.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I dunno why people find that so hard to believe. They have a clear interest in propping up this coup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is a difference between a clear interest and moral reason. There is a clear interest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I realize now the lemmygrad folks are here so that prob explains the downvotes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It is really hard to sell a liberation foreign policy when the group doing so is getting paid by strip mining the land in compensation for their services. Well, unless West is bad and always bad, but it is really hard to sell moral superiority by being mercenaries.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Because you don't just have a coup after having a stroke of insight from a night of binge drinking?

It's a movement led military units that have deep political and intelligence connections. They know a lot of things that aren't going to be admitted by the West.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Wait, you're joking but that actually could work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

🤔 ...That too.

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