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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Call that tin foil hat syndrome or whatever.

Racism. It's racism and xenophobia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Don't forget American propaganda based on commercial interests!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Uighur's issue is most certainly racism, xenophobia and also genocide. As much as I have a problem with that it would not be the reason I would not buy the tech. I have zero trust with a nation that actively steals from any nation it can get away with. They have no morals on where the line should not be crossed. And you want to give them access to your data. This is why countries are banning use of their tech being anywhere near government communications.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is why countries are banning use of their tech being anywhere near government communications.

No, that's also racism and xenophobia. They spread propaganda about supposed backdoors in network hardware, but can never actually point to any. If there's no exfiltration, you aren't "giving them access to your data".

I have zero trust with a nation that actively steals from any nation it can get away with.

Considering a lot of Chinese network hardware, specifically Huawei, is at the literal forefront of technological development, continually developing and producing the fastest devices with the highest throughput, etc., it is false to say they're just stealing their tech. They're beating out all the countries you could posit that they're stealing tech from. Moreover, if you're basing your supposed trust in a tech manufacturing company/country based on whether or not they steal tech secrets, what countries could you possible trust? The USA steals tech through (government enacted) corporate espionage against firms competing with firms in the USA[^1][^2]. You'd be hard pressed to find any country with tech manufacturing that isn't engaging in corporate espionage.

[^1]: Edward Snowden says NSA engages in industrial espionage [^2]: NSA is also said to have spied on the French economy

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Right so that's entirely meaningless. Read my comment again. I didn't say they don't steal tech, what I said was two-fold:

  1. Every country with manufacturing ability steals tech. Therefore basing whether you trust a country/company on that factor is worthless.
  2. There are some fields, such as networking tech made by Huawei, where they can't possibly be stealing tech, because they're at the forefront, ahead of all competitors.

You took the one very specific thing I didn't say in my comment (namely, that they don't steal tech), and decided to just shit out a bunch of links saying they do. Yet, you didn't address any of the points that I did make, such as saying that is a meaningless angle to look at this from.