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[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

agenda pushing is when people have an opinion that doesn't align with my own

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (12 children)

No it's when there's mysteriously dozens of comments just magically showing up that are contrary to the vastly popular opinion on only one contentious issue, that serve the best interests of an entity with the time, resources to try to sway public opinion through fake grassroots posting. Also that entity has a fragile ego and a long history of online manipulation.......oh and also coincidentally they are all coming from the same server

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

entity with the time, resources to try to sway public opinion

why would any foreign political entity waste its valuable english proficient resources on astroturfing an online backwater filled with politically illiterate nobodies? peak liberal solipsism

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It would appear that way yes......and as mentioned, they have a history of having extremely thin skin and doing exactly that. So do I expect some group to do the exact thing they have always done? Yes. Yes I do.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago

And by "have a history of it" you mean "I've been told it so many times in the western echo chambers I hang out it that I just implicitly believe it.

Mate, you've already had it explained to you where we're coming from, but apparently the idea of people who genuinely disagree with you is so fucking foreign to you that your redditor brain literally cannot process it, so you continue to descend into paranoid delusion.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

they have a history of having extremely thin skin and doing exactly that.

Are you sure you're not talking about another country? amerikkka

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I would like to ask you to employ some critical thinking here. Setting aside that the people responding to you have much better English than even a pretty high-level English speaker coming from Mandarin, most of these accounts have months or years of post histories spent almost entirely talking to each other on their previously un-federated instance, including in some cases very harsh arguing, as well as talking about the US on a personal level with intimate detail (and/or whatever other country they say they are from). Do you really believe the most simple answer is that this is all kabuki theater by the CPC to astroturf an obscure collection of websites by wasting a ridiculous amount of resources and the time of highly English-fluent actors? vs just "some people think differently from you"?

If you concede this point, then I would like to ask you to just consider for a moment the implications of the fact that you took the much more absurd and flimsy explanation as though it was just the common-sense explanation. What does that say about the way that you conceptualize the world and what people believe?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

In all fairness, a big part of my posting history is just reacting with emotes to shit. Maybe I am a bot?

thonk-cri cyber-lenin

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Again, learn what federation is, and while you're at it, learn that racist white westerners like you are not actually "the vast popular opinion". You're just used to reddit, where disagreement is suppressed, so now that you're in a space where genuine different opinion is allowed, you're desperate into paranoia.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

You're the only one who has brought up race and are speculating what mine must be. I'm not the racist one in this conversation and I'm not the reddit-y one either. I'm not a refugee, I left that shitty site years ago bot.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

bot

I ❤ dehumanizing people with different opinions

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then you should know how federation works. And yes, believing that only the opinion of white westerners counts makes you racist as hell.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There are non-white people who don't like China because of their aggression and obvious leanings towards imperialism. I've got friends and family all over Eastern Asia and their countries are constantly getting into territorial spats with China, including in Japan, the Philippines, and even communist Vietnam, not to Taiwan.

You guys just love China because they represent an alternative to the western US order. Maybe if they nationalized more industries, taxed their rich more, helped their workers with universal health care, and helped their oppressed neighbors instead of shooting at them and trying to take their territory, they would be more exciting to root for. Basically, if they were more like Cuba.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Sure, their are non white people with criticisms of China, but his attitude went well beyond that; saying "the vast majority opinion" on China is the reddit propaganda line is absolutely discounting the opinion of non westerners, and I'm sorry, but that definitely comes from a place of racism.

Like, I don't 'love' China, and I agree that much of their appeal is that they're an alternative to Western hegemony. It would be great if they were more like Cuba. But I think there's a world of difference between misgivings like that, and the liberal view that China is so evil that anyone who says anything good about them is a paid bot.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

Silence, drone

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I am a posting robot and I am hiding in your walls

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago

“Vastly popular opinion” = I have never left my white bourgeois gated community in the sixty-five years I have dwelt upon this earth

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

lol, so your issue is that people with similar opinions happen to be on the same server? truly the most obvious evidence of agenda pushing!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love how liberals think anybody who's outside of their echo chamber must be a paid shill. It's absolutely inconceivable to them that there is a significant amount of people who have contrary opinions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

:sad-in-the-corner:

They don't know that I know they are really all paid shills and bots

npc

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Vastly popular opinion held by whom?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on. I'm not playing these silly obfuscation games. You're bad at what you do.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, anyone with half a brain can see that people from a leftist instance are contributing leftist opinions to a space they just federated with. What were you expecting?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From the largest lemmy instance before reddit did the thing. Weird, huh.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

and the one that still posts hardest. we dominate post and comment counts on every time scale.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

Least deranged response after being confronted with the existential horror that capitalism causes within us and being asked to cast it aside, choosing instead to bathe in the waters of the imperial core like the river of Styx, forgetting anything else exists, freeing oneself of responsibility for their fellow human, untethered by compassion and hope for the future

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

you seem mad, what's the issue?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on.

Your chauvinism is showing brah

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

Yes, anybody with half a brain can see that you have paranoid delusions.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

if I had 1/8th a brain I could think like you

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

Insult that has no tether to the topic at hand, inline with your other comments that just make vague allusions that could be applied to any topic. Found the bot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

my brain is medically broken right now and even I can see that you're a paranoid weirdo.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

No it's when there's mysteriously dozens of comments just magically showing up that are contrary to the vastly popular opinion on only one contentious issue, that serve the best interests of an entity with the time, resources to try to sway public opinion

The thick palpable fucking irony...

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

maaaaybe we weren't federated until this week. but nah, paid bots makes more sense. very-intelligent

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

I don't know if the server you are talking about is hexbear, but they recently federated and are one of the oldest lemmy instances. Lemmygrad also has been existing a long time before lemmy became as popular as it is today.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Damn wish my fragile ego could manipulate you into not being such a flaming LIB

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

we federated , so now the stupid Imperialsit lies show up in Hexbear , they obviously can not stay , whats you proplem with beeing Corrected ? Do you want to live in Lies Mr. Jesus ? Because you can not be Bothered to do a ideum of research before running wild with the Mob Mr. Jesus ? , you want to forbide our ?

You sound very Priveldged , trying to impose your ignorance on others , whos your Dad ?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

dO yOur OwN rEseArcH

You sound just like every other idiot that says that. Trumpers, anti-vaxxers and the like. If you have to look around for yOur Own rEsEaRcH that lines up with what you want it to say, it's because it's not based in facts. You guys seem to honestly think you sound smart.......smh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

also like every other Iraq war Opponents , Vietnam war opponents, Imperialism Opponents ,Julian Assage loyalist etc... dont forget them !

Do you accept "Dissent" at all ? and are you Capable of Processing new information ?

this is REALLY Taiwans Air identification Zone . it is NOT the Taiwanese Airspace , this is a Factuall basis. Please Just Process this new Information , the Article is really missleading , the babycrying will stop after a while , trust me . You are really wrong and most people can comprehend that after a while.