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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It's not even legalization, more decriminalization which even tho is a step in the right direction isn't a whole lot. It can't even be sold like in Amsterdam, it's just social clubs and homegrowing.

Don't get me wrong I love the plans, but there were promises to legalize completely and not just decriminalization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Total disagree. This legislation would be the biggest step towards legalization since...ever. Owning and consuming 30 grams completely legally? That's fucking huge!

It can't even be sold like in Amsterdam

This is supposed to be addressed in the intended second law, which however needs approval from another government body, the Bundesrat, formed by the government of the states and in which the anti legalization conservatives have a majority. And I don't see you debating and convincing them, so why should they suddenly change their position? Additionally, in stark contrast to dutch implementation, it allows for public consumption, while in the Netherlands, consumption is only allowed in coffee shops.

Sorry, but your complaints are like criticizing someone for wanting to take the stairs to the first floor, and demand they just magically fly straight to the third one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

First of all, 25 grams is the maximum you are allowed to carry/own. I said it's a step in the right direction, which it is and the politicians promised legalization not decriminalization. I also think it's very good that they did anything at all since it's a problem around the globe, decriminalization just isn't going to make all the problems go away since u can still get into problems.

I also know about the EU Laws and or Bundesrat and why they can't legalize completely yet, but still they promised us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

but still they promised us.

Yeah and the Boxer in that fight last night promised me an exiting fight, but then dropped K.O. in the first round.

You can make the campaign promise to try to legalize Marihuana. You can actually mean it with all your might and will. But all your plans will still annihilate on first contact with reality, and what you do then is what counts. When you then try every possible idea to get closer to your goal, you are doing exactly what you promised to do: try your best to achieve your goal.

That's what this government is doing, and I respect them for that. I count that as a promise kept because they really put in the work to get us as close to legalization as possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah I know politicians lie to get votes, it was just such a big talking point for young people who only voted for them because the were going to do that, but now they don't.

I'm still happy at least something is happening and they don't just pretend that they never promised something like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I actually found the clubs in Barcelona much nicer than the Coffee Shops in Dam on a visit, so I have no issue with this model.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Never been to Barcelona, how is it there? U just sign up and can buy weed right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I thought it was great, had to request an invite online then once they know you're coming you sign up on the day and are let in. Thought the products they had on offer were much better than Dam in terms of quality and variety. The club was nicer than a coffee shop too, most of Dams coffee shops seems to be stuck in an eternal 90s smoker culture and never moved on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's hardly late tbh - only 8ish countries (and the ACT and a few US states) have actually got legal recreational cannabis!