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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You can report whatever you want. There's no assurance your employer will give a shit. The subject of this conversation was likely not on a 40 hour contract.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean... Yes there is? The law?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't know what country you live in but not in the US.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So do you believe contracts in the US are unenforceable, or...?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, I believe 99% of Americans don't HAVE employment contracts, and further that this kind of clause would be impossible to enforce because you'd have to somehow prove that 40 hours was not enough time to do your work, which is impossible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe this is the socialist European in me, but I can't believe that. Without a contract, the employer isn't obligated to pay you at all and you're not obligated to work. Even if it's just sealed with a handshake, there is a legal framework for both parties. If you just treat it all like an EULA and say whatever, just let me work for you and it'll work out, then that's your problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Maybe this is the socialist European in me, but I can't believe that.

I dunno what to tell you bud but it's 1000% true. I've had a dozen jobs and never had a contract.

Without a contract, the employer isn't obligated to pay you

Yes, they are.

Even if it's just sealed with a handshake, there is a legal framework for both parties.

Handshakes are not legally binding, nor are verbal contracts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Employment contracts in the US are quite rare. 49 out of 50 state are at-will employment (Montana being the exception), so they can fire you for any or no reason, excluding a small list of illegal reasons.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then I'll start looking for another job... What kind of absolute dead end jobs are you guys working, that you have to be completely spineless? No wonder that conditions are getting worse and worse.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Lots of people have shitty jobs with shitty employers. That's just the way the world is. Not everyone gets to pick from their lot of potential employers.