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My biggest complaint is how Linus is still saying he's not sorry about what he did, at least it doesn't seem genuine, instead he is still apologizing that he didn't realize what the community wanted.
He shouldn't care what the community wants. He should always strive for accurate data, ethical partnerships, and correcting mistakes when they still make it through because they always will.
Linus is doubling down on his opinions, hiding mistakes, doing the bare minimum to fix them, and needs public outcry and the heavy hand of the other executives in LTT to see any course change.
im so out of the loop here, help anyone?
LTT fucked up hard, doubled down, worse things came out, tripled down
I thought the video was a step back, not tripping down. They took actual action and they layed out a plan how they'll improve. What would you have preferred?
Fucked up hard = published numerous videos with inaccuracies and errors due to tight timelines and QA that was not rigorous enough. Also they fucked up communication and sold a prototype at auction. These are mistakes and journalistic ethical issues.
From what I can tell, they have owned up to most of that.
The more serious accusations come from Madison Reeves who not only claims she suffered from being worked like a dog, but also severe sexual harassment and other awful behaviors. LTT put out a statement that they had hired an external investigator and would take corrective action based on the findings.
Now, LTT is for sure in the wrong here, but what have they done wrong since? It seems they are taking the criticism seriously, despite Linus' initial understandable but unacceptable emotional reaction. Curious to hear!
edit: not sure why my summary of events is garnering a negative reaction 😅
Perhaps I'm biased, but "hired an external investigator and would take corrective action based on the findings" translates to "distract folk until the spotlight is off us, so we can then sweep the problem under the rug and go back to business as normal."
What could they do that is better than have someone outside investigate them?
Have a third party investigate and independently release the findings to the public.
Dude that’s what an outside investigator is
No, dude. An outside investigator may very well hand their findings right back to LTT management, who promptly bury the findings and make a generic statement of "We've received the findings, have taken them to heart, and will be making internal changes accordingly."
Yea that's true
I've lived through it. A prior employer brought in a third party to assess the business practices and policies. Six months later, their investigation was complete, and the results passed back to upper management. Warm and fuzzy statements were made, promising changes. None were made. Fast forward a year or so, and the C level that was the driving force behind the third party investigation left the company.
Could be! They said they are doing and internal review but also having an external one. I hope they do the right thing.
Mhmmm “we will investigate ourselves and find we’ve done nothing wrong.”
If you do something wrong, like publish wrong info, and then are OK with that wrong info being published... CONGRATULATIONS!! You just did something unethical.
Ethics does not require you to "do ethics". It requires you to do respectable work. You do not get to decide to avoid ethics.
Totally agree. See my comment where I mentioned numerous mistakes and ethical issues. They will be publishing new standards and guidelines and channels to report inaccuracies apparently to address this.
Madison's situation is the way bigger concern in my eyes. The issue is, they shouldn't have to hire an outside investigator, or they should've done so years ago. They were being told the issues directly for months and refused to do a thing about it until the spotlight was on them. You don't get to grope someone and say "I didn't know it was bad 🥺" a year later. You don't get to work your staff like dogs despite numerous private and public complaints only to say "wow, we had no idea" once it starts to affect your image. If this "external investigation" doesn't start with completely gutting the management and HR structure, and handing out appropriate punishments to employees who have received complaints, then it's clear that they don't care about their company culture as much as their brand image.
Agreed. The shit she endured is egregious. I think I approach from the perspective of the new CEO. Whatever he's done so far seems to be correct, and it should result in swift and sweeping changes. LTT very clearly has a culture problem that appears largely top-down. I'm not in the habit of feeling bad for CEOs, but what a shitshow he inherited...
The problem with inaccuracies on a channel like this is they are basically purchase influencers. One of their wrong graph shown some GPU was 3 times faster than other while it was around 15% faster only in reality. They kept selling the trust me bro attitude on every media and it turned out you cannot really trust them. With big power comes big responsibility.
What have they done wrong since yesterday?
Dunno! That is what I'm asking too.
Video inacurracy i am fine with if they are on the right course to fix that. Auctioning off prototype that are not theirs and knowingly use a wrong spec for the review for me is not. First one no matter what intention it is thief, second one is just disingenuous. It’s fine if Linus admits he is wrong on it, but he double down.