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Many in the crypto and privacy community mistakenly trust Telegram because it's "end to end encrypted", but there are huge issues including not hiding the metadata, censorship, centralization, and phone numbers.
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thats why Element(Matrix) is the way. Ideally selfhosted+federated, but even the default matrix.org is much better than most other chat apps.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why Matrix and not XMPP? XMPP is also flawed, but much less bloated, easier to selfhost and doesn't have so many people being on central instance like matrix.org (there are other arguments as well).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because there's not a single good app for XMPP and nobody uses it.

Their bleeding edge app is Conversations which costs money (already unviable), and the app looks like it's designed in 2012.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It does NOT cost money on F-Droid. You don't even need to install the market itself, you can get the app from F-Droid's website (though then you'd have to check for updates yourself). For me, it was a chance to get mom to F-droid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It may be once sliding sync and proper key handling of room history for new members get implemented.

Right now sync is very slow, the apps are heavy weight too (as I know at least partly because of how sync works today), and if a new member joins an encrypted room, they will not see the history even if you set it that way, because the clients that know the keys won't send to theirs.