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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Linux community is so inherently meritocratic that one can't meaninfully force anything upon any large group of them.

Thore particular two creations of Lennart took the world by storm precisely because they were so absurdly good that working on other stuff was a dead-end, obvious for all but such tiny fraction of people that even forming vacuous hate bubbles haven't rallied enough effort to foster and maintain alternatives.

It became trendy to hate Pulseaudio and call it bloat years after Nokia shipped a rather anemic phone where it already worked flawlessly. I need no further proof that there's no technical basis beneath the hate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Linux community is so inherently meritocratic that one can't meaningfully force anything upon any large group of them.

Even for developers, there is a very substantial cost to any deviation from the herd and little time or money for these projects. Factually a handful of companies run the Linux userspace and a handful of people run those companies.

You can go your own way but existing market share and resources matter more than quality or merit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

As a Red Hat employee who had his all-around sensible Fedora Change to prevent it from falling too far behind RHEL (!) rejected, I think I can confidently claim that your statements smell of conspiracy theories.

Do Linux-involved companies have resources to develop the projects they like the most? Yes. Do companies dominate userspace development? I don't think so, in fact, they're all seem quite focused in their interests, and their involvement with a median package on your community distro desktop system isn't even minimal, it's none. Do the se companies at least all push for a united agenda? Absolutely not. Can they force a single random community distro like Debian to pick something over something else? No. 99% of the distros? Goes without saying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not a conspiracy theory to imagine that IBM's vision for Linux compared to 2000s or 2010s era Linux is opaque, complicated, and enterprisey. It's who they are.

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Linux community is so inherently meritocratic that one can’t meaningfully force anything upon any large group of them.

Is pure fantasy. Software projects are dictatorships of those willing to put in the work, not meritocracies. There is nothing immoral or wrong about this but we should be realists. The entire software ecosystem is dominated by oft shitty good enough solutions which people poured enough work into to solve problems well enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

IBM's vision

Anybody can have a vision, but it's the work that matters. I'll be worried when they become a player.

Software projects are dictatorships of those willing to put in the work, not meritocracies.

Most linux distros are slight variations on the best components available. Yes, one can put in resources, do a great job and now everyone switches to the fruits of their labor. No, it does nothing to stop another player from one-upping them and taking the lead with their next best good enough. In political terms, dictatorships are incompatible with voting with one's feet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anybody can have a vision, but it’s the work that matters. I’ll be worried when they become a player.

Did you entirely miss the part where IBM bought Red Hat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It was hard to miss, I was working there. It doesn't mean that much as you're assuming.

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