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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children)

This is the German plan:

  1. Shutdown the nuclear plants
  2. Burn more lignite
  3. WFH

The council said assumptions made by the transport ministry on the effectiveness of the planned and already implemented measures, such as a discounted national rail ticket, a CO2 surcharge on truck tolls and increased working from home, were also optimistic. "Private vehicle individual transport is not addressed, so to speak. And that is ultimately a gap in the transport programme," Brigitte Knopf, deputy chairwoman of the council, told a news conference presenting the report findings on Tuesday

The plan for transportation emissions, 2/3 of the target to be cut, is WFH. Yikes!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How about you guys stop this bullshit about the nuclear plants stuff? They were scheduled to be shut down for a VERY long time, the biggest mistake was selling out nearly all the renewable energy manufacturing to China. Nuclear power is only making a profit, if it's subsidized like crazy.

Not only that - A LOT of Germans are actively against putting up more wind power, let alone photovoltaics. Which is what over 50% voted "against" as well. Those that didn't go voting, have lost all say in it, so yeah. That's not a political issue, we Germans are the issue.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

You forgot to add that we were once leader in solar tech, but that industry got destroyed willingly by the then ruling CDU and Peter Altmeyer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So why not modernize or replace the nuclear plants? Battery storage isn't anywhere close to being able to store baseline energy for a full renewable grid.

I agree it's a perception issue, but that doesn't mean nothing can be done about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the money for modernizing, let alone replacing those plants is a lot better invested in renewables. Battery Storage is very close to store baseline energy, not in Lithium Batteries though and the projected cost for Redox-Flow Batteries is going to be falling like crazy. It already is on the same level as Lithium, and while it is less energy dense, it's safer, easier to operate and especially longer to operate. The Dalian VFB in Liaoning, Dalian, China is one of the first "bigger" stations to come online, but there are already a lot of plans. I also have one in my house.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am curious how many Wh the one in your home is and what you use it for?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most plants are to old to modernize and building new ones is expensive, takes decates and dosn't solve the dependency on uran and the nuclear waste problem. Renewables were always the longtearm goal and gas for shortages. Nuclear cant be easy switched on or off, so they aren't a good solution to help with energy lows.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Who cares about renewables v nuclear? Either one will get us there.

If I understand correctly Germany does not have a plan to address transportation emissions.

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