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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes... I am the propagandized one.

Not the rural poor being marched off to die for half the price of a lada they'll never receive for an oligarch's pride.

All I can say is: Please, PLEASE! Make sure they keep marching.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You claim they started with tractors. This is utter nonsense; the AFU started the war as a legitimate military, especially after it took the decade following the Minsk agreements to arm up in anticipation of this war.

You also claim they are pushing Russia back despite the front not moving appreciably in the past year, even during the latest vaunted counteroffensive.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Remember, libs dont know anything about the context pre-war. It was all Putins desire to conquer ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You claim they started with tractors. This is utter nonsense; the AFU started the war as a legitimate military, especially after it took the decade following the Minsk agreements to arm up in anticipation of this war.

Russia used to call itself the 2nd strongest military on Earth.

Now they're clearly the 2nd strongest military in Ukraine. And they're sliding down.

You might not understand this, but they literally only survived because everyone was terrified of them, 'Crazy Ivan' who snaps and does something stupid.

That illusion SHATTERED with the failure to take Kyiv, it shattered and Europe's fear turned to rage, rage at being intimidated for decades by a clearly broken joke of a power.

Until last year Russia wasn't worth our interest, there was nothing there of value or threat, it was a far away, annoying country but it was someone else's problem.

Now, Europe wants to watch them burn for fun.

If they hadn't invaded Ukraine they would have been able to hold this illusion for decades more while the oligarchs continued to rob the country to deposit into British banks, but now, Russia is a threat that needs to be dealt with.

Fortunately, it's not much of a threat, and this shouldn't take too long, the only reason it's taking this long right now is because we can only help indirectly through Ukraine.

But Russia is stupid, hopefully they'll do something Russian and pick a fight with the rest of NATO, because that's just what they do.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Now they're clearly the 2nd strongest military in Ukraine.

Delusions like this are sending Ukranians to pointless deaths right now.

The worst part is you will never stop to consider the implications of being so wrong on this when the war is finally resolved (with Russia and Ukraine in basically the same territories as now). Instead, you'll toss this one in the "history" pile with Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc., you know, the wars where you tell yourself you would have seen through the propaganda had you witnessed it in real time. Then you'll cheerlead the next war because It's A Good One This Time.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

But Russia is stupid, hopefully they'll do something Russian and pick a fight with the rest of NATO, because that's just what they do.

I hope they don't because that would in all likelihood escalate to nuclear war.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (35 children)

'ukraine is totally winning' he continues to say as 33% of ukraine remains occupied by russia

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Russia is 5x the size of Ukraine, and called itself the 2nd most powerful army on the planet.

Now it's the second most powerful army in Ukraine.

You're bragging after they got their ass handed to them by their version of Canadians.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

no ones bragging here, the material reality of the situation is ukraines casualities are 3:1 and russia remains in control of the conflict and where the lines are; every ukranian advancement recently has come at heavy cost

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is 5x the size of Ukraine,

Consider how much of that is just tundra.

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