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I personally am fine with this.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Apple actually describes the process for sync in some detail: https://support.apple.com/guide/security/secure-keychain-syncing-sec0a319b35f/web

Apple also describes the keychain recovery process in depth (I think this is when you’ve lost all devices?): https://support.apple.com/guide/security/escrow-security-for-icloud-keychain-sec3e341e75d/1/web/1

The Secure Enclave can apparently return the private key. For most keys it is encrypted with a key pair that is permanently stored in the Secure Enclave. For synchronized keys it is apparently encrypted with a key that is also stored in iCloud in such a way that Apple themselves cannot get to it.

It does sound like they could potentially enable exporting the passkeys, I think it’s unlikely they would because they provide a method to move them to other devices already and it does introduce more avenues for misuse. I don’t think it’s a huge requirement anyway, most hardware tokens provide no way to export at all by design. Apps that use them for 2FA should provide for enrolling multiple tokens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Wow - thanks for this. It’s really interesting! I had a feeling they were exporting the key since Passkeys “magically” migrate from device to device. I’m sure it’s using some token that they would be very hard pressed to divulge.

I guess this rules out exporting the token, but to everyone else’s point, I think it’s still possible to access your on-device Passkeys without an iCloud account.