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Ah yes, I'm sure the formal training received by doctors, nurses, lawyers, teachers, and engineers is just an over-hyped "education" that can all be replaced by online MOOCs.
There are real problems with education, especially with the costs, but "anything can be learned online" is the worst take I've heard in a long while.
Medical professions have hands-on training that can't be replaced online.
You can get a teaching degree or an engineering entirely online, do you think those are not legitimate?
If someone can pass a calculus test after watching YouTube videos and doing practice tests, why should that count for anything less than someone who got the same score on a test from in-person courses?
Remote learning became a lot more common during COVID, like it or not, it's becoming normal. Unfortunately, test scores only count if you pay a lot for those courses. Free MOOCs teaching and testing the same content will not count, even if afterwards the people passing can demonstrate the same exact knowledge.
Just because you can get part of your education remotely or through self-learning didn't mean "anything can be learned online".
And if you were hiring a math tutor for your kid, would you prefer a self-proclaimed expert from watching YouTube videos or would you want someone who got a degree from a credentialed university? And even if you don't care, why are you surprised that others would be skeptical of the YouTube expert?
Remote learning can be fine for some things, and self learning through informal channels are also fine, but it's not a full on replacement for formal education in all cases.
Math can be easily tested, if they can pass a calculus and algebra test that is comprehensive, why would I care how they learned it?
Because part of a higher education degree is actually talking with people.
Which you can still do with online classes.
Lmao. Nope. I've done both. Online classes are a fucking joke. Maybe some schools do it well, but most treat online classes like a correspondence course.
It's beside the point whether you like it personally.
If someone was able to pass advanced math tests, does it matter how they learned it?
Why should it count for less because they did it online, so long as they did understand the concepts in the end?
Because math and science are large interconnected fields that you simply cannot learn from a textbook study. You must speak with other people about many different topics so you can broaden your understanding of where your education fits in the world around you.
Have you ever studied a particular subject and wondered "OK... I can solve that problem now. Why did I learn it?" Textbooks are notoriously bad at explaining the why.
That's all very vague, what specifically do you think people wouldn't know from online work?
Someone studying math online could be speaking to many more people through video calls, online forums, and get exposure to many professors through different videos.
You can ask "why am I learning this?" during an online class, and in-person work can be textbook heavy.
If there's something specific people need to know, it should be tested for. The vagueness around what problems online courses have seems to be an excuse to preserve a system that is inaccessible to the majority of the population. Only about 40% of the population ever gets a bachelor's, and many of those are online already.
For one, you can have a second screen and Google the answers. It's a little bit harder in person.
I'd really like to see a system of online learning where extension offices are built out into testing center networks. This still disenfranchises people sadly, but staves off some existential questions about what passing an exam even means now.
Anything can be learned online, with enough drive and determination
But if you're that powerful: why bother learning from others? You could simply leave and create your own community called name's Gulch.
No sorry, that's just fundamentally false. You can't just learn titration techniques from watching a video. You can't learn phlebotomy without an instructor watching you do it to a patient. Hell, you aren't learning how to drive a car from playing a video game.
And I'm not sure where you are pulling the "if you are that powerful" from. You really have an ax to grind don't you.
(The preceding comment was a parody of Great Man ideology)