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The image is a reddit post with the following text (automatically transcribed):

I remember I got into an argument on reddit awhile ago with a person over Italian food. It got to the point they were following me into other subs to harass me. I clicked on their profile to block them and their most recent post was them drinking their own piss on r/piss. At that moment I realized I had spent so much pointless time arguing about the taste of food with someone who drinks their own piss as a hobby. This site is a shit hole.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 10 months ago (20 children)

I hate that pov so much.

Humanity is fantastic, wonderful, loving and amazing. It's not a shit hole.

I'd argue society is really broken in some places, but not humanity.

As for Social media: it just brings out some dark side in some people. The vast majority of people on social media behave. It's just that the outliers catch the attention.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I hate this pov so much.

I think it perpetuates that things are better than they actually are and inhibits change and progress… we’re all different I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But the poster you replied to has a point:

Just like most animals the greater majority of people try to avoid as many direct conflicts as possible IRL. And they're full of empathy and compassion - even for other animals in distress and inanimate objects (saw off the fingers of a plastic doll in front of others and see how they treat you afterwards).

But of course people will lose a part of that compassion etc once they move within society without feeling like a part of it. One example is driving a car. You're way less aware of being a part of society even though you're "swimming" in it. Feeling a strong individual agency and being empowered by two tons of steel while simultaneously being greatly restricted by everyone and everything around you will do that to you.

Same goes for the (social) media landscape. We feel empowered by our own echo chambers and/or chosen media outlet while barely interacting with anyone who could challenge our beliefs (which, funnily enough, is often the right call in that context, because we can't change strong opposing beliefs via social media). And since it's all an indirect, mostly faceless interaction, our beliefs will automatically be strengthened and we'll be more likely to agitate anyone with opposing beliefs (while still avoiding any direct conflict).

So I'd say it's more of a flaw in our design, that is being exploited, than a general lack of sympathy/empathy (of which we actually have plenty).

Which means you can't hold any one individual to higher standards. Because that's not where we "fail". It'd take a much broader appliance of social securities (housing, food, healthcare, education etc all over the world) and a fundamental change in the way we interact. But you and I won't change that (though I guess it's comforting telling ourselves that we could individually change things on a greater scale).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

So everyone’s in agreement.. humanity is a shithole

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