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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (20 children)

This article is strange... The author uses "being able to open Microsoft Office documents" as a common example of what an OS that claims to be easy to use should be able to do. Then says...

When people download Ubuntu 23.04 they get an OS that can do everything Windows 95 did - with 23.10 they don’t

No default installation of Microsoft Windows EVER opened Microsoft Office documents. If this was a simple oversight in the write-up it'd be fine, but the point is hammered over and over again.

I don't have an opinion about Ubuntu including or not including more software in the default installation (my guess is it became too big to fit on a DVD?) but this article failed to make it's point to me by making a comparison to Windows that isn't true.

Also...

the world’s most popular desktop Linux operating system (that’s Ubuntu, for those of you playing dumb)

Is this supposed to be a cocky joke? I can't tell. What metric of "most popular" is the author using?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Is this supposed to be a cocky joke? I can't tell. What metric of "most popular" is the author usiing?

Number of active users.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

those numbers are nonexistent for most distribution, since forcing telemetry isn't really a cool move in the free software world

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The number of IPs hitting their software repos can be a decent way of estimating active users. Also, ISO downloads and so on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

There’s also the check connectivity to Internet ping that network manager does. Arch Linux defaults to Arch’s servers, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Local repo mirrors are pretty standard in the enterprise world are they not?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Any company invested enough to host a local mirror will not give a blank install of Ubuntu to their employees though.

You can argue that other distros are popular as well, but when it comes to the "I've heard of this Linux thing, let's try it out" crowd Ubuntu is the goto option, no doubt about it. And the impact on this crowd is exactly what is discussed in the article.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Hundreds of thousands of people using eg. Debian plus a software profile plus a sources.list file with an intranet address don't count as using Debian?
I'm not arguing about the contents of the article, I'm discussing specifically the relevance of generating usage statistics based on IP hits and ISO downloads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

For the purpose of the article: no they don't.

If you want to discuss telemetry or how to measure popularity of Linux Distros, please submit and link me an appropriate post, I'll be happy to discuss it there. But it simply adds nothing to the discussion here.

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