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[–] [email protected] 195 points 10 months ago (133 children)

People who think being a jackass is a form of activism. That's all you really need to know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (122 children)

I have seen so many thread saying how bad that instance is but every time I ask for links proving how bad they are I have never see anything worth the hate.

Can you provide some examples?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago (63 children)

I have never see anything worth the hate.

You just have a very high tolerance for jackassery. You've seen plenty of evidence of hexbear hostility, i.e. the "dunk tank" that would justify not wanting to interact with hexbear users and have actively chosen to disregard it.

This is because you're kind of a jackass. Disregarding people engaging in good faith with "just trust me bro" is exactly the kind of thing people really hate hexbear users for. Not because of illegal activity or moral failing, but because they're assholes. While you may think this isn't worth de-federation, unfortunately moderators aren't some kind of legal authority, and if federating with hexbear means instance admins or community moderators need to put in triple the work to prune all the arguments and """shitposting""" hexbear users love, nobody is legally or morally required to put up with it.

It's legitimately that simple. Hexbear users are jerks and nobody wants to hang out with them, and that's enough to ban them from any given community or instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They’re tankies. End of story.

This is not a good argument, which is going to elicit the response he had no matter the context.

People don't put the effort into showing receipts. And sometimes the receipts are about murders that happened over 100 years ago? This post about the tzars https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/424265/Hexbearians-frustrated-that-user-draws-the-line-at-child-murder

This whole thread is about the historical context around the summary execution of the romanovs. While the tzars absolutely needed to end, in the context of the 1910s and absolute monarchy, if the children didn't die there would have likely been civil war trying to reinstate the line into power.

THIS https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/419779/This-Comm-is-Racist-Thought-Terminating-Nonsense

Is a much better receipt. User doesn't understand the winnie the pooh reference, also doesn't understand the PRCs effort to stifle discussion about TSM and the pressure that firsthand witnesses are under.

even with this guy, I don't understand how a user being an idiot is worth defederating. If he's going into other threads and spouting the same nonsense, sure ban him. If many people are going into other unrelated threads and injecting that kind of misinformation into conversation, that's a pattern that makes defederating a consideration.

Is there this pattern, of other communities being disrupted in this way?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the communities dedicated to screenshotting posts in other instances are a really fucking odd thing I see show up routinely.

It has always appeared to me there is some kind of side squabble between various communities in the Fediverse against a couple instances in the Fediverse. I pretty much see two flavors: overly personal grudges or hypocritical trolling. Or I guess the swirl option for both, so three flavors.

It's kind of nostalgic really, for the old days of forum flame wars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The purpose is to highlight that tankies are extremists who hide their bigotry and hatred behind progressivism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would respect you more if you had more interests than disliking these people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't dislike people who deny and even celebrate genocides? Don't think I want your respect if such content is okay with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Show me some receipts

Cherry picking sarcastic comments is fine even

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Awesome

Please include references to the context. If those users are spouting this crap on other instances and they do nothing about it defederating is a good option.

If they are having private shitbird conversations within their own community, block the communities on your instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

They do indeed post such content on other instances and communities. There are many examples of this in the community.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope you didn't cry about it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

No, Donald Trump's communism saved me

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