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JBP has got u bro (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Need a plate of generic, insipid platitudes with a giant helping of bad science and misogyny?

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Yeah JBP is famous outside of his mentor crowd for different reasons. Some people flock to him for guidance, and others look at his other takes and judge him as a whole. It would be akin to having a conversation about good leadership skills and bringing up Hitler as a good model for using effective communication skills for uniting his base regardless of the outcome. I am not talking about Hitlers history of racism or politics.

I just want you to acknowledge that many people dont come to JBP for his stance on religion or trans issues. They come for a fatherly role model. I want you to criticize that not his stance on whatever philosophical problem because they can be seperated. If you can show me an example where it needs to be together then that is acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I see what you're saying "you can dig through this pile of shit (racism, homophobia, and other bigotry) and find a nugget of gold (basic ass advice on self help and leadership)" and that's as true for JP as it is for Hitler.

I think what everyone else is saying is "WHY?!??" why are you fighting so hard to dig through the shit. There are many people handing out that gold with very little shit digging required.

When you fight so hard for the right to dig through that much shit to find small amounts of easily accessible gold, people are going to rightfully start to think it's not just the gold you're after.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Im losing confidence that you have anything to bring to the table other than dog whistle style messages. I am not trying to defend the guy on all moral positions, i am just looking for this one thing. Its either you know or you dont.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Nothing in what I said is a dog whistle. You clearly don't know what that term means.

This is the first time I responded to you and I was pretty clear: when you support heinous people so ardently you can't blame people for assuming you support heinous people.

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