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I recommend this video to look more into OSR philosophy regarding the rules: https://www.youtube.com/live/bCxZ3TivVUM?si=aZ-y2U_AVjn9a6Ua

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Per turn. We already have rules for difficult terrain and for movement. Adding more than that is completely unnecessary

As others have expressed pretty well, a game that fucks up its own core system is bad game design.

5e keeps on breaking its own core system. Pf2e tries to make everything work with the core system, that's why its bloat is less confusing than 5es, but it's still there for the sake of complex combat options

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't call that a fuck up by any measure. This seems meaningfully distinct than just "difficult terrain", since its a hazard in itself. It's not a matter of just going slow, just staying there is dangerous. Not to mention it can compound with difficult terrain.

In practice, I'd still prefer the 5e rule where everyone has at least some time they can manage being in there as opposed to just rolling con and having your wizard drown immediately when they touch water like it is a video game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is a survival skill in the core of the system, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

For tracking and foraging. You don't roll Survival to resist damage so I don't think the idea is the same here.

And you know, just because it could be done in other ways, it doesn't mean the way they are doing it is bad, even if you don't like it.