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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And who or what desides if a death is pointless?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you think there's glory in these deaths then stop cheering from the backfield and take the place of someone gang pressed off the street.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even if I would do that I suppose you wouldn't be happier with the situation. And guess what, neither would I.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But that's what you're saying, right? These deaths are valuable just for the sake of fighting in some abstract sense? Because the bad guy is bad?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No, as I said in my first answer, there are no generally right or wrong answers. There are people dying because of some vanity project of the rich and powerful. I also hold the opinion, that those shall be prevented at all costs. But if my information on the conflict is correct and this war started as a civil war on the topic of secession, then the question get's hard to answer almost instantly, and also highly individual.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How can you both say that the war is a vanity project for the rich and powerful and the same time argue that the deaths caused by it have meaning?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because for some people they do.

edit: In another post you mentioned the breakaway republics, there you have your examples. People who don't want to live under a certain regime or don't want to live under theirs anymore. Sometimes fighting is the only option left for people, and sometimes fighting people know they will die fighting.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's like you have an opinion and don't all at the same time. Maybe reconsider your position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe that is what you should do.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

I actually have a position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The world is an unfathomably complex thing, even if you leave the people stuff out, and we all have lots of opinions and mostly none of the information.

I do realise that I don't have a say in the matter and neither should I. The one thing I know for certain is that optaining a truth is on a spectrum between hard and impossible.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

This is a cringe that is certainly unfathomablely complex

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Youre like the 80IQ backwoods Joker. No thoughts just endless monologue. Hilarious