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submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

You're conflating "property" with "housing".

We can agree that the land and building is still available as housing, but it's not property. The renter has no stake in the real estate. They don't own it. It's not their property, and their privilege to stay in it is subject to the terms of the actual owner—the landlord.

There's still many properties available to purchases.

Sure, if you can afford an $700k apartment with a down payment of jack-diddily-squat because most of your income went to paying off some other guy's mortgage and topping up their savings.

While we're at it, let's keep pretending that people purchasing property for the sole purpose of rental doesn't artificially increase demand and drive up pricing.

Many people don't have the skill or resources to manage their own property.

If you don't have the skill to Google the number of an electrician or other tradie, I don't know what to tell you.

Let alone pay for large expenses all at once.

That's what a mortgage is for.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They don't own it.

And therefore don't have to incur the burden of large expenses such as replacing a roof, a sewer line, etc.

if you can afford an $700k apartment

If you want to cherry pick an example of the most expensive areas of the country instead of the more reasonable examples of a $70k single family house. But then the person buying the property is responsible for all the repairs and maintenance.

doesn't artificially increase demand and drive up pricing

The lack of housing development with increased demand creates a housing shortage. When there's a shortage, pricing goes up. The United States is at least a decade behind where they should be in housing development.

That's what a mortgage is for.

A mortgage just pays the bank for the loan. A mortgage payment does NOT pay for repairs on the property. If the furnace goes out in the middle of winter, it's up to the homeowner to come up with the money -- typically thousands of dollars all at once.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And therefore don't have to incur the burden of large expenses such as replacing a roof, a sewer line, etc.

If someone bought a house without doing an inspection, that's their own fault. If it's a natural disaster, that's why you have insurance. If it's expected wear and tear, you would have emergency savings to cover it.

At least as a homeowner, I know I can actually get it fixed before freezing to death. Can't say the same when waiting for profit-driven landlords to go through the script of checking it out themselves, finding some reason to claim its not broken, and then eventually pestering them for long enough that they do their damn job and hire someone to fix it in a couple weeks.

If you want to cherry pick an example of the most expensive areas of the country instead of the more reasonable examples of a $70k single family house. But then the person buying the property is responsible for all the repairs and maintenance.

The median price of houses in the country is $420k.

I'm sure I could build a nice doomsday-prepper shack in the woods somewhere for $70k, though.

The lack of housing development with increased demand creates a housing shortage. When there's a shortage, pricing goes up. The United States is at least a decade behind where they should be in housing development.

And you don't see how landlords—who are buying more real estate than they actually use—create increased demand?

A mortgage just pays the bank for the loan. A mortgage payment does NOT pay for repairs on the property. If the furnace goes out in the middle of winter, it's up to the homeowner to come up with the money -- typically thousands of dollars all at once.

I refer back to my first point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

emergency savings

Not everyone who owns a house has emergency savings. Not everyone is good at saving money.

Can't say the same when waiting for profit-driven landlords to go through the script of checking it out themselves, finding some reason to claim its not broken, and then eventually pestering them for long enough that they do their damn job and hire someone to fix it in a couple weeks.

Not sure where you're getting that false narrative from.

I'm sure I could build a nice doomsday-prepper shack in the woods somewhere for $70k, though.

Or a single family house in a Midwest city. The United States isn't just the coasts, you know. There's a huge portion of land in between.

And you don't see how landlords—who are buying more real estate than they actually use—create increased demand?

People live in those properties, they're not "unused".