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submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

A UK Member of Parliament recently suggested that there should be a Government minister for men which would presumably do similar things to the existsing minister for Women.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/reactions-pour-in-as-mp-renews-calls-for-official-minister-for-men-356501/

This has thrown up a series of heated discussions on social media about whether this is part of the 'backlash' against feminsm, or whether there is a legitimate need for wider support of men's issues.

As a man who believes that there are legitimate issues disproportionately affecting men which should be addressed, what I really want help in understanding is the opinion that men don't need any targetted support.

I don't want to start a big argument, but I do want to understand this perspective, because I have struggled to understand it before and I don't like feeling like I'm missing something.

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago

It’s a disingenuous argument. The MP is from the Conservative Party, i.e., the right wing arsehole party.

You may have noticed how the Right Wing Playbook has been imported from America. Increasingly, when things aren’t going politically well, they’ll have a look at the Playbook and pick a Culture Wars trope. This is one such instance, intended only to divide.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

How is supporting men's mental health and advocating for them in ways they are often overlooked (such as in single fatherhood) bad?

[-] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

This is the same difference between Black Lives Matter and All Lives Matter. Nobody is saying that men should not be advocated for, but elevating the issue of men's rights to ministerial level does not help resolve the larger issue of the systemic disadvantage of women in society.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It's not supposed to, it's supposed to help issues specifically affecting men.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

You're right, it doesn't. That's why there's a minister for women.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Who's responsibility includes reducing the disparity between men and women. Having a minister for men introduces parity in this regard, which therefore does nothing to advance the interest of women in a male dominated system

[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Helping men with male specific issues ≠ holding women back

It’s like that ad, “1/4 of homeless people are women”. So what about the remaining 3/4, who get even less help?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

The ultimate goal is equality, but it takes targeted support of women to attain that.

I'm not saying that men's issues should remain unresolved, but the intent of the Tory MP is not to support men. It is to divide and conquer.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

You can do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

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