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I would understand if at least 20% of the Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel would be comprised of western volunteers talking about terrorists and no negotiations.
But that is not a thing. So looks a bit ballsy, cause one would think that in a rather apocalyptic war on Ukraine's soil, after they've reclaimed large swathes of territory, they'd be interested in some reduction of monthly casualties and rebuilding various capacities on that territory. Which a ceasefire would provide.
I mean, even if you are right, you are eagerly advocating for spending mobilized Ukrainian lives on a costly offensive.
Like the 2014 ceasefire? All it does is give Russia the opportunity to retrench and dig in. When the Ukrainians ask for a ceasefire, then I'll support one.
Like every ceasefire.
I suppose right now Ukraine just wants some better guarantees while it has a strong negotiating position.
So that it takes some effort from Putin to even be heard.
Or maybe what Zelensky says is what he means, you can't negotiate with a pathological liar (just like a few of Ukraine's allies, though) who doesn't know how to lose with dignity. Be it a person or a whole elite of some country, like Russia. I mean, emotionally I've met some and I'd agree. Just don't know what it is rationally.
Probably the reason Ukraine doesn't want a ceasefire...
I'm only repeating what Ukrainians say. They know any concession with ruzzian terrorists now will only lead to ruzzian terrorists regrouping and reloading to perfom more genocide in a few months/years all over again. The fascist moscow regime needs to be stopped NOW.
The word "genocide" means something else (which, in case of Turkey and China and even Yazidis in Syria, most of the world has problems recognizing).
Yes, but Ukrainians need to regroup too.
Murdering, kidnapping and brainwashing Ukrainian children is genocide. Attempting to exterminate the Ukrainian people is genocide.
Then we'll have to introduce degrees of genocide.
Which is not happening.
I block all russian trolls.
You don't fucking know which things the words you use mean. And since you still dare voice your opinions on real world - blocking me is an important first step at stopping that.
Bye, moscovite. Your terrorist regime is about to meet the end.
What an ape FFS. Don't say bye the third time.
EDIT:
I mean, you say "genocide" as if China is being sanctioned or punished for Xinjiang, and very little pressure would be required to make them stop, or Azerbaijan for Artsakh, and Azerbaijan is a bug to squash, one phone call would be enough, and Turkey itself mostly does all the things it does to pressure concessions, so they are ready to negotiate in every moment.
Ah, and Ukraine supports Azeri genocidal crimes in Artsakh, so fuck them.
Your country, if that's US, doesn't do anything about these. It cooperates with the criminal terrorist states I've mentioned. And yet you have the gall to throw the word "genocide" around about something which is war crimes, yes, and even sometimes acts of genocide, but that would mean that a Ukrainian life is worth more than an Armenian life, and I don't agree. A Ukrainian life is worth more than your life, surely, but not more than an Armenian life.
Now, you can say that yes, these are all genocides much more real about which you don't care, cause your side is of the perpetrators there.
Now do Russia. There must be more western volunteers on that side, I take it?
I obviously mean that you are talking too tough for somebody not participating.