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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Half the people here are trying to de-google

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Then this is irrelevant for them because they wouldn't be using Google's Messages application. They'd be using another one.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unrelated, this is for accessing via messages.google.com if you want to dwgoogle don't use GOOGLE messages.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Google Messages replaced the AOSP SMS app, and is the only app that provides support for E2EE RCS and standard RCS if your carrier has not provided their own.

It's also one of the few mainstream mesaaging apps that won't have a hissy fit about being installed on a rooted device

Edit: Ah, my point got lost. There is no other app on Android that will let you do RCS mesaaging from a desktop.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Yes but it's a proprietary Google app. Degoogling is to rid yourself of this app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's the only app that has RCS. I don't use it, but I think it's kind of terrible that Google has a monopoly on the format.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

They don't, RCS is open.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's terrible that no one else has decided to make an rcs app? That's not really under googles control

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Google has blocked anyone's ability to make an RCS app by making the API a system-level API. In order to make an RCS app, you must make an Android device. So Samsung could make one and bundle it with their phones, but Textra can't make one and make it available on the Play Store.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah ok, other replies mentioned API access in relation to servers so I misunderstood the issue. It looks like that API is hardlocked to Google (and Samsung?) devices. Thanks for the info

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Samsung was just an example. I have been out of the Android development game for a while now, so my information might be outdated, but back when I worked for an android device maker (Android 5 timeframe), any Android device maker could use the system level APIs. You just needed to sign your app the the same keys your Android source code was compiled with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah I was pulling Samsung from an article I found discussing the issue, not specifically your comment. It said that those system APIs only responded to Google or Samsung made apps, but that was from like 2021 tbf

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They won't open the api. Anyone else who tries to make one would be starting from scratch. Including with a server

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Sure, but isn't that just complaining that Google runs the largest implementation of RCS? It would've been great if this was handled by carriers, but they never would pick up the task so Google just did it inhouse. I think if they hadn't rcs would just be dead by now (for better or worse)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's because Google hasn't allowed anyone else access to the RCS API, actually.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Google doesn't open their own RCS API to the public. Nobody is stopping you from running your own server and service so far as I can tell