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[–] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago (63 children)

I too want a post-scarcity luxury space communism utopia. Unfortunately most iterations of communism feel more like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic than actually plugging the hole in the fuselage.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (58 children)

It's just human nature in my eyes. Power attracts many people and the less positions of power to fill, the fiercer the competition and the more ruthless the ultimate victor. Communism focusses too much power in too few positions, so ultimately, corrupt people are almost guaranteed to win. Democracy is spreading out that power more. It is still not perfect, corrupt people are still regularly found at the top, but they wield less power individually and they have to do it more in the open.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

We should select leaders by lottery from a pool of those who have passed a civics exam instead of elections. Maybe that would help with the problem of corrupt people seeking positions of power.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you want to give nuclear codes to a random person, though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could it be worse than giving them to power hungry octogenarians?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Yes, I do think giving nuclear codes to a randomly selected literal terrorist could turn out worse than the only other time the US launched a nuclear attack. 5000 nukes to peaceful targets is worse than 2 nukes to targets at war.

If you're going to give power to randomly selected people, you need more checks in place than just "can they pass a civics exam?"

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And who makes sure that the rules aren't broken? Who makes sure the lottery wouldn't be rigged? Your 'solution' is defenseless against corruption. It offers no mechanic to deal with the corrupt. The beauty of democracy and capitalism is that it allows for those who want more power, to achieve it within the system. By that, they will stay within the system and be subjected by the accountability it provides. If your solution allows absolutely no way to stack the cards in your favor, then it will be rejected by all who wish to, and it will crumble before long.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

and be subjected by the accountability it provides.

Sure

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