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[–] [email protected] 117 points 9 months ago (46 children)

If we didn't all work to produce excess wealth for the super wealthy, we'd have 20 hour workweeks. People can do a lot with that extra time.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (19 children)

And then surely people will start doing logistics for your fantasy farm in their free time right?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (18 children)

I mean, if they want to, sure. Point is society wouldn't be reliant on that since everything necessary for society to function would be taken care of during the said 20 hour workweek. I don't care if somebody wants to set up a tomato farm or a donkey ranch or whatever on the side, as long as they don't exploit or mistreat anyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But if you set up a farm and hire someone then it's suddenly capitalism again? Does this paradox have a name?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why would you need to hire someone? If it's a farm meant to provide food for people then it's commonly owned and the people who work there are state employees, the purpose of the farm being to make food, not profits.

If it's something you do because you want to and out of passion, then why would you hire anyone? Sure, you might want some help, but then you just get people who are passionate about it as well, and you share the produce. Like a community garden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds good. Can't wait for factory workers to share their hydraulic brakes out of passion /s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you dense? I said everyone would have a regular job like they do now for 20 hours a week, except with more control over the workplace. The farm mentioned is something you would do in your free time because you want to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

So a farmer just stops working on their farm after 20 hours and then goes home (to their farm, because they live in a farmhouse) and just ignores their starving animals because he has a different hobby and can't work more than 20 hours a week? Or does he have to hire people to work the rest of the week, which goes against your views (capitalism)? Or does he work for free outside of those 20 hours to not spoil his harvest and kill his animals? Or does he somehow split the work from the 20 hours off and sell those to the government and then sell the rest to another market (which is again capitalism)? Or are you just a dumbass that doesn't understand anything about how the world works?

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