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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (10 children)

funny how serial killers get upvoted when it's non-human animals getting killed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

As I said in the other reply, you got to choose between the serious and memes-friendly reply. You had ~3h to do so, and you're showing activity, so you picked neither = both.

c/memes friendly answer: Serial killer? Come on, I don't put ketchup on pizza, sauce on ribs or hard cheese on seafood!


Serious answer. Spoilers for the sake of other users.

First off. I will cut you some slack, but keep in mind that "serial killer" is generally understood as "one who periodically kills humans", so what you're doing is libel. Others might not cut you the same slack, so get a bit more insightful with your insults.

Secondly. I also understand that "I shouldn't soapbox in a meme comm" is a bit too complex of an idea for nationalists, vegans, racists, and Christian zealots. And given that you belong to at least one of those groups, this should be really hard for you, o poor thing.

Final and more importantly:

You wouldn't call a jaguar piercing the necks of capybaras "serial killing", even if they periodically do so. Or orcas hunting seals, even if they can get really "playful" (cruel) towards their prey, also periodically. Or chickens eating bugs alive, so they die either crushed or dissolved in hydrochloric acid, even if they don't need it to survive. Or chimps hunting termites and teaching their children how to do so, even if there's a cultural factor in this.

And yet you refer to a human being killing a member of another species [ipsis ungulis] "serial killer" Why, even if by the above we know that you don't give a fuck about periodicity, cruelty, necessity, or culture? Why?

Because you want to pretend that you're part of a very, very special snowflake species, "holier and above all those filthy irrationals", above them. As if you were better, more moral, more deserving of The Kingdom of God than those "poor things".

Cut off the bullshit. You and me are catarrhines with a weird hair pattern. We are animals; acknowledge you as such, instead of wallowing in wishful belief. The morality behind our acts is the same as the morality of the same acts of other species. If eating flesh is immoral for us, so is for both other omnivorous species and the carnivorous ones. You can claim that eating flesh is moral, or immoral, but you need to do it for both sides.

If you claim that it's immoral, go grab your shotgun and kill every fucking jaguar, orca, chimp, and chicken out there. (Except battery farm chickens, those cause less death of precious animals than you'd like to admit.) Or even better, go ramble at the jaguar, he'll totally listen to you and stop eating capybaras. (He'll probably eat something dumber than a capybara then. You.)

If you claim that it's moral, I rest my case.

You're also putting animal lifes in a weird altar over the lives of everything else. Every fucking living thing thrives off the death of something else; even plants, bacteria and funghi. Why is this weird altar even there? Because you're an animal and put your own group over the others, in detriment of those.

I'll pre-emptively rebuke some really stupid counter-arguments that you perhaps might utter:

  • Any reasoning trying to pretend that humans are "speshul", such as intelligence - refer the paragraph starting with "Cut off".
  • "Dis is appoeal to narurr! [nature]" - nope. I'm highlighting that your standards are arbitrary and, if consistently applied, would go completely against what you probably claim to defend ("poor crirrurrs" [critters])
  • Something about tone - deal with it. You brought this to yourself.
  • "haha didn't read lmao XD lol" - can't have your precious, oh precious feelings ( = garbage) being broken, right?
  • "B-but the environment!" - the issue with continued sustainability of Earth to keep human life is not the fact that we eat meat. It's the 1% hoarding resources and making sure that we exploit the shit out of the environment so they can count coins.
  • "this dunt maek sense i dun unrurrstand" - it does make sense even if you pretend that it doesn't.

Get off your high horse.

Note for other vegans that might be reading this, before some assumer starts whining and becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: I'm not chewing on this moron because it's a vegan, but because it showed itself consistently dumb across the thread.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TL;DR but jaguars dont have moral agency. People do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

TL;DR

Fourth bullet point.

but jaguars dont have moral agency. People do

First bullet point.

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