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[–] [email protected] 101 points 2 months ago (12 children)

My dad was a boomer, he insisted that Phillips heads didn't used to strip out this bad and it's just that everyone switched to making shit cheap screws out of shit cheap material. He also lived to see the enshittification of appliances from something you buy once in your life to something you buy every five years (at least, according to the warranty) with a nifty galifty payment plan. Walking into home Depot instantly radicalized him.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm a millennial, I don't really recall phillips screws getting universally worse over my lifetime. I've torn the drive out of a LOT of them over the last three decades.

What I have seen is Phillips holding still while the rest of screwology improves around them. Take an impact driver and blast in a few 3.5" #10 Torx deck screws, then try to install a Phillips head screw and see if you can keep the word "bullshit" from coming out of your mouth.

There's also the issues of Pozidriv and JIS, which both superficially resemble Phillips but are different and work VERY poorly if turned with a Phillips driver.

Home appliance enshittification is real though. I'm running my Kenmore 80 series for as long as I can.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Millennial here, too. Phillips screws have been made of fucking cobwebs and wet tissue as far as I remember too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Gen Z who fucks with old tech here. Some eras had pretty good philips but im not convinced the head wasnt reinforced compared to the rest of the screw. Id say tech on average philips get worse from about the lste 70s onward, for cars its the mid 90s.

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