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How G.M. Tricked Millions of Drivers Into Being Spied On (Including Me) (www.nytimes.com)

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I will drive my 2003 Envoy I inherited into the ground, and after that it's a 2008 Camry, and then I'll ride that into the ground. Good God, if kid-me would have known adult-me would have turned into a Luddite..

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Luddite…

Avoiding spyware doesn't mean you're opposed to labor-saving technology, much as avoiding tasers doesn't mean you're opposed to electronics. :)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Avoiding spyware doesn't mean you're opposed to labor-saving technology

Neither does being a Luddite

They confined their attacks to manufacturers who used machines in what they called “a fraudulent and deceitful manner” to get around standard labor practices. “They just wanted machines that made high-quality goods,” says Binfield, “and they wanted these machines to be run by workers who had gone through an apprenticeship and got paid decent wages. Those were their only concerns.”

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

What the fuck, I have been brainwashed. Ludd et al were legit. We could have a really nice society but somehow the average person is irredeemably stupid to not join a movement such as that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

they wanted these machines to be run by workers who had gone through an apprenticeship and got paid decent wages.

A machine that avoids that can be called labor-saving, in the sense that it saves the employer from having to pay for skilled labor. I get the distinction you're making, and thanks for the article, but it really doesn't invalidate the use of the phrase.

Still a good clarification, though, and I side with the skilled labor on this one. :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah true, kid-me would be very proud that I'm opposed to anti-labor practices!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

There are legitimate uses for vehicle telemetry being stored by the vehicle and uploaded to the manufacturer.

Identifying unexpected behaviour under certain driving conditions and being able to contact emergency services in an accident are two important examples. Remote diagnosis in the case of a breakdown is another.

None of these uses include selling the data to third parties or using the data to create a profile of the vehicle owner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

There is a difference between destroying looms, corrupting LLMs by feeding bad data and causing an uprising like the Butlerian Jihad of Dune or the Second Renaissance of The Matrix.