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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Swap KP for Vaultwarden, FD for Obtainium, NP for Grayjay, and you basically have my setup.

Though I still run windows for gaming.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Obtainium doesn't even come close to fdroid . like it isn't even a question bruh completely different things as one is just a tool to make updates easy the other is a high privacy and security app store with really good policy, security and privacy check etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

One reason I'm thankful for Obtainium is because "OAuth was not approved by Google, etc for the F-Droid build" of Fair Email, and unfortunately, that's still important for me. Obtainium is able to download from the official F-droid repo too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But Grayjay isn't open-source, is it? Just source-available - it has some weird FUTO license. LibreTube and Newpipe, on the other hand are GPL-3.0 licensed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Correct:
https://hiphish.github.io/blog/2023/10/18/grayjay-is-not-open-source/

For that reason I use Tubular,
a fork of NewPipe which supports SponsorBlock + ReturnYouTubeDislike:
https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yep, look but don't touch unless it's for personal use. Not ideal, but I think it's a step up compared to a completely closed source alternative.

I can somewhat understand the reasons, particularly looking at the fake NewPipe app malware on the Play Store, and Louis' own experiences of being screwed over by other lobbyists while trying to pass R2R legislation in the cleanest possible condition. Trademark protection + GPLv3 would have mostly sufficed I think, but an explicit "prohibition" by license allows for a much faster legal conclusion AFAIK.

The unusual license may also be to allow distribution on iOS at some point, as GPL licensed software is not allowed on the iOS app store without dual licensing (although this is not something I'm familiar with). GPL components can be embedded within apps though I think.

Grayjay is pretty much a frontend viewing and development interface for media platform plugins, and every plugin is AGPLv3 licensed. Someone could make a Purplejay or a Greenjay alternative frontend implementation for them and there'd probably be no issue.

Having fewer SA & FOSS apps that take the place of several closed source apps is great: Newpipe (or my preferred fork, Tubular) handles soundcloud, youtube, and bandcamp. Grayjay handles patreon and nebula. It also doesn't hurt to have multiple apps capable of playing YouTube in the event that they break one app with some new change, as NewPipe, LibreTube, Grayjay's plugin and yt-dlp all use different extractors AFAIK