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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Fortunately not even we have the combination of ability and stupidity to wipe out all life on earth. The worst we can do is wipe out most life on earth, and hopefully the survivors learn something from that. If we don't we'll just have to wipe out most life on earth over and over until we can figure out how not to structure societies so that they go in that direction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem is always the question of how rare intelligence, multicellular life, etc etc really is. And that's just not something we have enough information about to consider wiping ourselves out as acceptable because "life will go on" and "we deserve it, honestly"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Oh, it's unacceptable. We must do everything we possibly can to prevent environmental catastrophe and a potential mass extinction event. It's probably better not to even accept the possibility we may fail. For my mind though, the stakes are too severe for me not to consider how thinks could still be ok long-term (centuries to millenia) we could recover from it. This is what I would be thinking about while I'm dying from exposure. I would much rather not have anyone go through it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We do with nukes. And capitalism is the reason why we are destroying the planet. By changing to socialism we can prevent making things worse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, but Capitalism is only the most recent iteration of an issue we've been dealing with since we agriculture went mainstream, which is the idea of social class. "Socialism" with an established ruling and working class has been demonstrated to be as destructive if you look at a list of top greenhouse gas producers. Stateless, classless, true ownership of the means of production by workers is the only way to prevent the perverse incentives which happen when we treat a few people as above the rest of humanity when they are not only no better but socially stunted by privelege.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

"Socialism" with an established ruling and working class has been demonstrated to be as destructive if you look at a list of top greenhouse gas producers.

China is the leader in green energy and is the top solar panel and electric vehicle producer. Socialism is doing its due diligence to move away from fossil fuels.