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I protest voted one year because I hated the candidates. That was the year Trump got elected. I'm never doing that again. Lina's well worth supporting in the next few elections, but the real options this year are already set. Everything else is equivalent to not voting at all.
I’m often torn when talking about how to vote in US elections because you guys have to balance ideology with the need to be pragmatic far more due to the First Past the Post (FPTP) voting system. The only way that Democrats get a serious signal that they need to move left is by voting for far-left candidates, even those who aren’t on the ballot, but that runs the risk of handing the election to the Republicans.
Y’all seriously need some Ranked Choice (RC) voting. I have never once voted for a major party number 1 in any election I’ve participated in, and that’s never caused my vote to be ‘wasted’ like it can be under FPTP. Mandatory voting would really help too - it would expose the fact that Republicans only make up around 30% of all people and they’d never be able to govern outside a coalition ever again.
I firmly believe that if the US got rid of the primary elections and implemented both RC and mandatory voting, we’d be nearing the end of Bernie Sanders’ second term right now.
It's not that it runs the risk, it's a guarantee. There's no situation in which another more leftist party gaining a significant number of votes doesn't mean handing the presidency over to the republican party. Fptp is a really bad system.
I really would like nothing more than to get some tasty, tasty STAR voting up in this mess we call a democracy.
It's always discouraging to me that when the topic of alternate voting methods comes up, RCV is always mentioned as the way to go. It seems to be the alternative voting method most people are familiar with.
RCV has it's problems and there are demonstrably better voting systems such as you said STAR voting.
STAR voting, or ranked robin are possibilities as well. RCV has it's problems. https://www.equal.vote/star_vs_rcv
If you want ranking Ranked Robin is better than RCV https://www.equal.vote/ranked_robin
STAR or ranked choice voting wouldn't really fix the big issue. The issue is that we live in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, not that we don't have enough bourgeois parties able to compete.
Blaming voters for the results of a liberal democracy is like blaming consumers who don't recycle their plastic for climate change.
As I've gotten older I've realized something.
There really are only two groups of voters in the US, just not the groups you think.
There are those who support the two-party system, and those who do not.
Supporting the two-party system is just looking out for different rich people. In many ways, it's looking out for the same.
Someone's scared his team isn't going to win