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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (24 children)

After two years, it's pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (23 children)

That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.

The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it's useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.

As their propagandist said "We are Russian. We want the world. All of it if possible."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (22 children)

The actual truth is that it's NATO that's been constantly expanding towards Russia. It's also NATO that's been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.

Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.

Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:

The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.

The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.

Now, thanks to western "help", Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can't wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

nations are not forcer to join nato

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I see somebody is projecting

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