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Why is this so difficult? (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (8 children)

False equivalence.

It's not.

Because Russia attacked them.

No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.

It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.

I see you have problems with reading comprehension.

If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.

If the west didn't run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would've been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.

Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.

That's complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.

You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.

Now that's what actual false equivalence looks like.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.

Russian propaganda talking point.

If the west didn't run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would've been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.

Euromaidan was not a coup.

That's complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.

Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Russian propaganda talking point.

Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296

There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs

Pretending this just didn't happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.

Euromaidan was not a coup.

Yes, it was and there's overwhelming evidence for it.

Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.

Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that's showing any signs of being exhausted:

and here's some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on

and here's some analysis from military strategists for you

Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

do you perhaps support Turkish annexation of greece?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you perhaps make bad faith arguments when you have nothing of value to add to the discussion?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

are you perhaps a bot?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Are you perhaps a troll?

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