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Bring them a dumb phone. Ask them to install the app on it for you. Tell then you are not buying a new phone just to use the gym.
And they will say you can’t go to the gym, then. I agree this is enshittification but this isn’t a magic trick that lets you bypass the app
It’s not, but I pushed back on my gym and they got me a barcode key tag. The app just shows a barcode anyway so I lucked out. I took a picture of the barcode and use that to get into the gym. Doesn’t hurt to try
Doing that makes it so they need to support the old system since some people keep asking for it. All I’m saying is, your actions help so thank you!
Assume they’d let ask you to have staff let you in every time, same as someone whose battery died. Pretty soon they’d recognize you and quickly buzz/wave you along, I figure.
That's how I play the game, you get on first name basis with people too that way..
This isn't a magic trick. This is more about pushing and seeing how far they would bend.
Like what you said, if all else it's a way out of the stupid agreements with gyms.
That isn’t how contracts work
So if you can't get in a gym because of a technology they added after you signed, they will just continue to charge you?
That's what you think will happen?
Knowing corporate gyms.... Probably.
Yes that’s absolutely what will happen. They likely have language in the contract you signed allowing them to do just that.
You are paying for access to the gym. They don’t have to provide you access via a card or a list or an app - they probably specify that they can refuse access for a variety of reasons, including “safety and privacy” or some shit they can shoehorn an app into. You don’t have a legal right to access a place via the mechanism you choose.
Looking online at similar situations people had their membership canceled by management. Other cases showed bring able to enter by a phone number, by their old tag, or ID verification. Looks like it happened for people whose app kept on crashing or a work phone that wouldn't allow installs.
Which gym would just keep charging you if you said you can't get in?
I never said they’d charge you, I said they wouldn’t just let you in.
You literally said Yes when he asked that question earlier. We can all read it.
Ah I missed the part where you said “and charge you.” There’s nothing in contracts like these that says the gym has to let you identify yourself in any way you choose and I don’t see why you think there would be.
I'm guessing he was referring to the actual practice of a gym doing something like that. I'm sure there is whatever statement in the gym contract that says that they can change access. I wouldn't know. I just use the gym in my apartment.
In practice, most businesses will work to accommodate you if there is a change like this and you can't adapt. Someone else mentioned that their gym has an app and it doesn't work all the time and have to use fobs still. Most managers will work with a customer and take care of the few that need extra attention.
Most gym employees don’t have that level of discretion in the US at least. Most gyms I’m aware of are franchises and asking a wage employee to go against their corporate policies risks their livelihood.
Isn't that illegal though?
Isn’t what illegal? They are allowed to determine how you access their gym.
Making apps mandatory. Idk about the US but I'm pretty sure here it's illegal
They're not a government institution providing necessary services, so I think it's legal pretty much everywhere. Same with places accepting payment by card only.
Idk. I've never seen a card-only place here so I guess they're illegal too. Even if there are such places, you can easily find ones that accept cash and don't require apps. You all just live in such enshittificated places that you can't believe in the existence of much better ones I guess
It's not like that here. Most accept cash and I think gyms are still "normal"
Good for you then
yup