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China blocks use of Intel and AMD chips in government computers (www.ft.com)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Microsoft’s Windows and foreign database programs also sidelined as Beijing favours Chinese hardware and software

Among the 18 approved processors were chips from Huawei and state-backed group Phytium. Both are on Washington’s export blacklist. Chinese processor makers are using a mixture of chip architectures including Intel’s x86, Arm and homegrown ones, while operating systems are derived from open-source Linux software.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No!!! You aren't allowed to do that! Only America is allowed to be protectionist 😠 😠 😠

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you have any idea how protectionist China has been for the past several decades? Nothing the US has done comes even close to their long standing policies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

They ban certain media properties and cultural imports, but they've been open for business to developers and industry my entire life. This recent wave is way different. This is an actual industrial supply-side commodity that is used in production, not a controversial movie.

Something new has been happening since America launched the chip tradewar and the performative attacks against Xinjiang province.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

In all likelihood, they've been open for business to make it easier to nab intellectual property from the rightful owners. China has probably just decided they've learned enough to make their own "homegrown" products, and can safely kick all the western businesses out of the market.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except in many cases you cannot sell directly in China, but you need to "partner up" with a Chinese corporation in order to sell there (aka technology transfer). You then need the Chinese government approval and possibly a CCP person on the board

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

... So? This is clearly different - Intel and AMD can't partner up with a Chinese corporation to sell chips anymore, they're just banned. That's new.

Also? It's the Communist Party of China: CPC

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was saying that China has been open for business, but only at certain political conditions. Now these conditions are changing

Also, it's usually CCP in the US, CPC in China, PCC in Italy etc. Depends on your language. Same with the old Soviet Union, CCCP in Russia, USSR in US, URSS in Italy and so on. It's an acronym.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Their actual English name is the Communist Party of China. CPC. There's no reason to call them the CCP. I have theories about why US sources do that, conjuring up Cold War ghosts of the CCCP, but the fact remains that they're wrong.

It's like how, in the US, the Democratic Party is sometimes called the Democrat Party. It's not necessarily meant to invoke hostility, but it very often is a dog whistle. We've just, unfortunately, gotten used to it.