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I wanted to degoogle since Google has been most annoying so far with S21FE. Was thinking of getting Pixel 8a but due to mixed reivews I was looking for other phones. Thoughts on this? Would be also nice if I can get some opinions from people who have the phone as well.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Afaik /e/OS isn't completely Google-free. It just uses some anonymization stuff to make Google services a bit less invasive and I think it has proprietary software too. For a complete Google-free experience you probably want something like LineageOS or GrapheneOS

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

/e/OS is based on LineageOS with microG. They did make a choice for Magic Earth as maps app which is not open source. For "normies" /e/OS seems a fine choice to me to De-Google.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least Magic Earth has good policy though, no?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It isn't google-free in the sense that it ships https://microg.org

Unless you enable SafetyNet, none of Google's code runs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Aw shucks, the porter moved on from Lineage to develop more on e/os

Any alternative custom ROMs that are generally considered complete Google-free other than those 2?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Idk about completely Google-free ones. Most of vanilla ROMs (such as crDroid, ArrowOS, CherishOS etc) do have some pre-included fixes for Google apps because most of the users flash them and I think they use the proprietary version of Monet theming (there are 2 versions of it). Usually LineageOS is what you go for if you want a completely vanilla ROM. I heard they're considering adding some fixes for Gapps too but I don't think it's going to be anything bad or proprietary

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Should I be concerned if I am not going to be installing Google Apps (or gapps) or microG?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Depends on the exact ROM (I think they're only really tested with Gapps) but usually you should be fine. It might be relatively easy to identify a user of ROMs like this because of mismatching device fingerprints (done to unlock Pixel features such as unlimited Google Photos storage and high FPS limit in games) though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Here's a comparison of the main ones. They are all good projects in their own right so take a look at their features and which phones they support. Some are focused more on hardcore security and privacy, while others are more casual in their implementation. Some only support Google Pixels while others support a pretty wide range of new and old devices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have other comments made you dislike /e/OS ? microG, which /e/OS uses is not using Google but a replacement for the Google Play framework if you would for example need location feature for some of your apps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really dislike, but was wondering if there were any better choices