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The vast majority of music without lyrics sucks.
For me it's the opposite. The song start and the music is a banger but as soon as the lyrics comes, it's ruined.
I'm with you on this one. There are lyrics on almost every single track for crying out loud. Throw us instrumental lovers a bone won't you? Songs that are lyrically driven but are otherwise super-repetitive instrumentally tend to put me to sleep.
What I love about concerts is when the band goes off script and just starts jamming. Even a 5-minute drum solo will have me grinning ear to ear, and that's what I'll be remembering on the way home.
Repetitive instrumental pattern is my #1 skip reason xD that "Aight I'm bored" moment when you realize the song has nothing more to give is a sad waste of time.
I love 21 pilots and Foo fighters for their great instrumental + vocal balance
Trash lyrics fucking up an otherwise good song. It happens far too often.
That's why I'm just a bit of a fan of Thom Yorke's whole "using my voice as an instrument, the words don't mean anything" vibe because at least he purposefully isn't trying to make meaningful lyrics and instead is just trying to add another instrument to the music.
Classical music and the entire lo-fi genre would like a word with you. (And I'm forgetting a lot of them, like bossa)
Or do you mean removing voices from songs ?
Either way, there are music with absolutely legendary instrumentals that would be bangers with or without voices.
Nah, classical music is one example. Another big one is techno/electronic stuff.
Contemplate Clair de Lune from Debussy, take a gander at Gwyn, Lord of Cinder's theme from the Dark souls OST, let your mind wander at Time from the Inception OST. And that's only the most mainstream I could think of.
Beautiful music is everywhere, from every media, in every genre, you just just have to listen.
I kind of agree with you, there is a lot of great soundtracks. However, for me a soundtrack is part of a larger medium, which it underscores or sublements. Most of them make medicore songs at best when listend to in isolation.
Can't you say that of everything though ? Take rap for example, doesn't it fit in a larger medium that is the rapper's life ? You cant have a piece of art existing in a vacuum. If I listen to Gwyn's theme, am I liking it because I played the game or because it's intrinsically beautiful ? Does it make it less beautiful to me ? Does it matter ?
Maybe. I don't really care about artists and usually know nothing about them, so that aspect is usually irrelevant to me.
I didn't mean that the life of the artist is relevant, but lyrics are the reflection of an artist's existence, so even if you don't care about the artist themselves you're still listening to their lyrics.
That's why I say pieces don't just exist in a vacuum.
I mean you're right, they don't exist in a vaccum. But for me they might as well.
All I care is the song. Like if a specific pattern of sound waves makes my brain go "I enjoy that" then I like it. I really don't think any additional consideration are necessary or relevant.
Agreed. Which is also why I enjoy both instrumental and songs :P
Of course, that's valid.
But I think your initial point was that songs, like soundtracks, are part of a bigger medium. And I don't really agree with that. A good song is a good song on it's own but a good soundtrack in context may make a lousy song on it's own.
That wasn't my point at all (maybe quote me the part that sounded like it was) I think it was actually your point :P . I'm an avid and holistic enjoyer of good sound.
It was that part.
Adding an epic soundtrack to a movie scene transforms both pieces into a new expirence. I just don't see how adding the context of an artists life to a song is comparable to that.
Well in both cases it is the context. One is the movie, the other is the socio economical context of the rapper's life that people might relate to. That's all
Interessting, you talking more about relating to the artist directly. I guess in rap it's very common for many songs to tell very personal stories, so people related to the broader story that spans the entire artists work. I haven't really consider that. Good point.
Yeah, at the end of the day, music like any form of art (and some other form of craft that might be considered art) is there to provoke some kind of emotion in the recipient.
For example there's one piece of classical music that especially touched me last year called "Prince Igor". I have no clue who made it, who interpreted it, what it's about or when or where it was written. All I know is that this particular melody resonates with me and I ended up listening to it on a loop for hours on end because it evoked a feeling of peace and joyful curiosity.
Just quoting one of my comments I made elsewhere in this thread:
Fair enough :)
That's your opinion and I respect it
Imo it depend what the instrumental is.If it's some aggresive guitar riffs that bands like Mayhem or Siculicidium could drop, i will love it. It's just some weird noises made by a computer i will find it boring.
There is definitely exceptions. Though guitar instrumentals don't do it for me, even though I generally listen to the rock/metal genre.
But for example I really like violin covers by this one artist/youtuber of movie and game soundtracks (especially the Zelda games). But that's some of the only instrumental music I listen to and only when I'm in a specific mood.
And even there I think nostalgia is doing most of the heavy lifting for me enjoying the songs.
What about some post rock? I find it very nice relaxing music and being without lyrics is also part of that. Bands like God Is an Astronaut, Explosions in the Sky, Mono, Mogwai, etc. Even Sigur Ros which technically include singing, but it's just gibberish to have "another instrument".
I'll save this comment, because I'm not going to check those suggestions out right now.
Maybe in a few weeks you'll get a random reply to this comment. I've done it before, but no promise.
Sure, no problem. I discovered the genre at uni and it really helped me to focus on studying. It's probably not for everyone (what is), but I really got into it. Love the soundscapes people are making there. Close the eyes and let your mind go...