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Biden's going hard on diplomacy, most of which we don't see. We do see some of the carrot and stick approach he's using. The stick is the canceled shipment. The promise of future arms is the carrot he's dangling in front of isreal.
Biden reeeeealy wants to see Netanyahu gone
He's being consistently ignored about Rafah and then he goes for the carrot? I'm sure giving him what he wants will really help get Netanyahu out.
What he's doing is public hand wringing, private support. If anything actually changes I'll happily change my mind. I'd love to see it. But no, we get more dead kids.
Would be real neat if the carrot stopped murdering children though.
Completely delusional. Literally just making up a reality and choosing to live in it regardless of anything that happens.
Is it also delusional to say that Biden is intentionally alienating the people most likely to vote for him?
I think it's safe to say it's a complex situation and saying Biden is doing everything he can is just as stupid as saying he is doing nothing at all.
Of course not. The democrats fully expect anyone on the left to continue supporting them because "what are you gonna do, vote Trump?" The people Biden is most likely to alienate are the people most likely to vote for him, because he has no reason to cater to the demands of safe voters.
Not to mention the fact that he's literally spent his entire career unwaveringly supporting Israel, and all his current actions are totally consistent with full support for Israel and everything it's doing. You know, actual evidence.
You are right to say it's stupid to claim he's doing nothing at all. What he's doing is much, much worse than nothing - he is unconditionally arming a genocide.
If we don't see it, how do you know he's going hard on diplomacy? Is giving Israel more fucking weapons to kill children "diplomacy"?
imagine waking up in the morning and spending your time trying to justify support for a genocide
Cognitive dissonance, otherwise they must admit that the Biden is a genocidal maniac. But since that admission will lead to uncomfortable conclusions perhaps even tankieism, it is best to imagine Biden playing some complex anti-genocide game behind the scenes despite all evidence and remain blissfully liberal. You don't want Trump to win do you?
That's basically the mental gymnastics liberals are doing right now.
This is hands down the best example I've ever seen of how the carrot and the stick isn't done.