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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

So many comments here saying you don't need the terminal for full functionality.... What Distro are you people using??? How do you install programs not in the "software center" and how do you edit config files? How do you configure a network share? I don't really think you guys are thinking this through.

For any use-cases beyond a very limited chromebook-like functionality, Linux is absolutely not fully usable without access to the terminal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Well if i double-click a file I've made executable, it will ask if I'd like to run it, and most software will have a github or downloads page that will give you direct downloads to the software.

In other words, I can successfully install things like a windows user, I just have to go the extra step to open the file's properties and make it executable with the GUI first.

Apt is faster, and it's also faster to do a direct download, make it executable, then execute it in the terminal, too. But I CAN do it.

Config files can be edited in the GUI text editor, it's just slower.

To test my claim and prove your third point, this link is the repository for a samba GUI, found at https://www.samba.org/samba/GUI/. Specifically, it's SMB4K, the first one.

Convenient? No. Would it update automatically? No. Do I want to do it this way, or recommend it? Still no. But it does function.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

In other words, I can successfully install things like a windows user, I just have to go the extra step to open the file’s properties and make it executable with the GUI first.

Some programs can be installed this way, but it's extremely far from universal.

Config files can be edited in the GUI text editor

Not without opening them as root, which in every distro I know of, requires the terminal.

To test my claim and prove your third point, this link is the repository for a samba GUI

The install directions for that program involve the terminal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure you can configure "open as root" in some file managers. Also you can configure a gksudo (or similar) setup.

Really though, that makes me think. The file manager should detect you're opening something you don't have write access to and ask if you want to authenticate as root to open it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are apps that can do it, but require the terminal to install.

Also in every distro I've tried, config files will open read-only, not with the authentication pop-up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Just double clicking on /etc/fstab opens it in the editor, I can write whatever I want and when I want to save it asks for authentication.

Anyways, what exactly do you think is the average user that can and should play around in system config files and can't use the terminal at the same time?

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