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Valve fans are like Apple fans (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/15970074

Valve:

popularized DRM on PC

killed the used games market on PC

bans people for selling their Steam account

contributed to popularizing microtransactions, loot boxes and Battle Pass

forces you to run a proprietary app to play your games

forces updates on you

pretends they invented Wine

ships devices with a proprietary SteamOS

forces devs to use proprietary libraries to use Steam's features

Gamers:
Yes uncle Gaben more of that please!!!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

imo, those are pretty weak reasons to criticise valve -- they've definitely done worse

afaik, they took years to crack down on csgo gambling websites, and still massively benefit from it. the whole portal64 thing still feels wrong to me. i don't like the fact that they walked back on their anti-ai content stance. the people make game documentary on working at valve highlights some pretty bad discrimination stuff happening behind the scene imo.

i don't think it's fair to criticise them on not providing an open-source client to download games, or open-source library to access their features - you wouldn't gain much from those being open-source anyways, since the games you play on stem are pretty much always closed source. i don't think it's fair either to say that it's bad that they ship devices with a "proprietary os" - they are the game console manufacturer selling them most open-source device on the market currently, they're doing much better than the alternatives in that regard. i don't know where they've said or suggested they've "invented wine", but i've never heard of that - they could probably disclose more openly how proton works and its relationship to wine, but i don't think they are maliciously behaving as if they created wine/vkd3d/…

i don't think valve's a perfect company, but they're still probably the best one to get most games from. and i don't think it's fair to hate on them for exaggerated reasons, it's much more productive to scold them for stuff they actually did wrong.